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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-voter-pennsylvania-convicted-voter-fraud-n1266258?cid=eml_mra_20210504&user_email=e73377d3e40790eecbf6a99203e1476ea2a23c644c2045abd739b8f9e629a73b


Trump voter in Pennsylvania convicted of voter fraud


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In the wake of Donald Trump's defeat six months ago, Republicans launched a desperate search for illegally cast ballots to help justify the GOP's conspiracy theories. But despite all the hysterical rhetoric, only a handful of legitimate allegations have been raised, and some involve Republicans casting illegal ballots for Trump on behalf of dead relatives.

Take Bruce Bartman, for example. The Washington Post reported this morning:

Weeks before Election Day, Bruce Bartman mailed his mother's absentee ballot with a check mark next to President Donald Trump's name. The problem was, his mother had been dead since 2008. Bartman, 70, pleaded guilty on Friday to a charge of felony perjury and unlawful voting and blamed his decision to cast the fraudulent ballot on consuming too many false claims about the election.

Expressing regret for his crime, the Pennsylvanian conceded, "I listened to too much propaganda and made a stupid mistake."

A local judge reminded Bartman that his crime "goes to the heart of our democracy," before sentencing the defendant to five years' probation.

The Post's report added, "In addition to Bartman, two other men in Pennsylvania face charges of fraudulently voting for Trump, according to the [Philadelphia] Inquirer. Ralph Thurman of Chester County allegedly tried to cast his son's vote and Richard Lynn of Luzerne County allegedly attempted to obtain an absentee ballot for his deceased mother. Both cases are pending."

My first thought after seeing this news was to remember the case of Crystal Mason, who cast a provisional ballot in the 2016 while on supervised release for a federal conviction. She didn't know she was ineligible to vote, and her ballot was never counted, but Mason -- a Black woman -- was convicted of illegal voting and sentenced to five years in prison.

It's hard not to notice that Bruce Bartman -- a White man -- received a far more lenient sentence.

My second thought after seeing the report out of Pennsylvania was the expectation of Republicans seizing on the news. "See?" I assume they'll say. "Voter fraud is real after all, which means sweeping new voter-suppression laws are fully justified."

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-secretary-of-state-slams-fellow-republicans-for-attempting-arizona-recount/ar-BB1goRUW?ocid=msedgntp


GOP secretary of state slams fellow Republicans for attempting Arizona "recount"


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Kim Wyman slams Arizona GOP's ballot "audit" CNN


In a rare move, Washington's Republican Secretary of State Kim Wyman blasted her own party's move in Arizona to "recount" 2020 election results in Maricopa County an effort spearheaded by the pro-Trump private consulting firm "Cyber Ninjas," which has been enlisted by Republican leaders in the Arizona state Senate.

During a CNN interview on Wednesday morning, Wyman joined "New Day" anchor John Berman to discuss the ongoing efforts in Arizona to overturn legitimate results via a phony "recount," which Trump views as a path back to the White House. The Republican secretary of state further warned viewers that the unprecedented steps being taken by the state GOP "should alarm every American."

"And Madam Secretary, you see like flashing, you know, red warning signs and sirens here based on what's happening in Arizona. Why?" anchor John Berman began the segment asking Wyman. The secretary of state replied by citing the private company, "Cyber Ninjas," taking over command of the "recount."


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"Well, because we're witnessing an event that has absolutely unprecedented movement in elections," Wyman responded to Berman's question. "We've never seen a private company be able to come in and take command and control of live ballots that were used in an election, and the precedence of this is just unnerving for election officials across the country. And it should alarm every American in the country because we don't want people to be able to just walk into a crime scene and contaminate evidence for a future trial. That's what this is."

The Republican state official went onto decry the partisan nature of the Arizona recount, which she said is being conducted by political operatives in an attempt to unfairly gain power.

"I'm worried because now they've given a new playbook to campaigns and political parties," Wyman declared. "And make no mistake, this won't stop with the Republican Party. What we could see, you know, down the road is whatever political party is in charge of a state legislature, if they don't like the outcome of an election, then let's just go ahead and make up an audit, make up a process, some sort of review, and the public will not be well served," Wyman added. "And the public will have trouble being having any confidence in those results."

Tn Trumpworld, the Arizona "recount" efforts are a highly anticipated event, which has attracted the attention of both right-wing media and Trump himself.

"I wouldn't be surprised if they found thousands and thousands and thousands of votes," the former president shared with a group of supporters at his Mar-a-Lago Club last week. "So we're going to watch that very closely. And after that, you'll watch Pennsylvania, and you'll watch Georgia, and you're going to watch Michigan and Wisconsin...Because this was a rigged election, everybody knows it!"

On the other hand, right-wing pundits, including MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell and right-wing media websites including "The Gateway Pundit," view the "recount" as a path to have Trump back in the White House by August. (A lofty goal that election experts have repeatedly said is nothing more than a pipe dream.)

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://businessinsider.mx/dominion-criticizes-cyber-ninjas-arizona-election-recount-2021-5/?r=US&IR=T


Dominion bashes the election firm running the Trump-supported recount in Arizona, saying its already committed serious errors


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Dominion criticized the firm recounting votes in Arizona as having "committed serious errors."
The CEO of the company, called Cyber Ninjas, previously tweeted conspiracy theories about the election.
The recount has been promoted by Donald Trump, who falsely believes he won the 2020 election.
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Dominion Voting Systems sharply criticized the election firm conducting a recount of ballots in Arizona, saying that auditors have "already committed serious errors" and "demonstrated incompetence" during the audit.

The recount, which is expected to take weeks, is being overseen by an obscure firm called Cyber Ninjas hired by Republicans in the Arizona state legislature.

The company's CEO, Doug Logan, promoted conspiracy theories about the integrity of the 2020 election on Twitter in January, as the Arizona Republic first reported.

Dominion, an election technology company, supplied technology to a number of polling locations in Arizona and has been a target of false and convoluted right-wing conspiracy theories alleging it helped "flip" votes from then-President Donald Trump to now-President Joe Biden.

In a statement Tuesday, the company said Cyber Ninjas wasn't qualified to conduct a recount and that its leader was operating with "a false, pre-determined conclusion" that votes were altered in the first place.

"The firms conducting this so-called audit are not federally-accredited Voting Systems Test Labs," Dominion said in the statement. "The lead firm, Cyber Ninjas, has no election experience, and publicly available information shows its leader has helped spread debunked lies about election fraud."

A representative for Cyber Ninjas didn't immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

Trump has supported the audit and asks for updates about it multiples times a day, according to the Washington Post. He has demanded that Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey a Republican he criticized for not supporting attempts to overturn Biden's victory deploy the National Guard to protect the recount process, even though there have been no publicly reported threats on it. Trump advisers told the Post he's also asked about using UV light to analyze the ballots, which experts say may destroy information on them.

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Contractors working for Cyber Ninjas examine and recount ballots from the 2020 general election at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, Arizona.
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Trump has falsely claimed he was the true winner of the 2020 presidential election, including winning the state of Arizona, which he lost to Biden. His lies about the election led to the insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, when a mob of his supporters sought to stop Congress from certifying Biden's victory.

Trump's campaign brought two lawsuits in Arizona seeking to overturn the state's election results, as did Arizona state GOP chair Kelli Ward, a driving force behind the Cyber Ninjas audit. The cases were among the 40 Trump-linked election lawsuits that failed.

Maricopa County, the largest county in the state and where the Republican recount is taking place, has already conducted two separate audits of its 2020 election results. Both found that the results were correct and Dominion machines had produced accurate results.

In its statement, Dominion said it had numerous security measures in place for its election machines, including creating a voter-verified paper trail for each vote, using two-factor authentication that requires a physical key, and putting measures in place to ensure the machines don't connect to the internet.


"Local election officials securely store and monitor the machines at all times," the company said. "Thousands of poll workers, party officials, and election officials across Arizona watch over precincts on election day and guard tabulation sites in the days following."

Cyber Ninjas' insistence on secrecy during the recount process has alarmed independent election experts. On Wednesday afternoon, the company reportedly reached a settlement with the state's Democratic party to offer more transparency.

Dominion has launched a raft of defamation lawsuits against individuals and companies that promoted election conspiracy theories. Its lead defamation attorney, Tom Clare, previously told Insider the company is weighing filing a lawsuit against One America News, a far-right media organization that pushed false claims about Dominion.

The media organization had quietly deleted stories about Dominion from its website even as it publicly pushed false theories, as Insider previously reported. OAN is also a force behind the recount, helping finance the venture even as Arizona Republicans named the network an independent observer of the effort.

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

who is paying for this ? to be done by ultra right wing partisans. with any direct watch by the opposing side. Sounds like a Hittler-Putin authoritarian sceme. I bet Putin has kicked in some money to these people.

https://news.yahoo.com/secret-chinese-ballots-uv-lights-145729996.html


Secret Chinese ballots, UV lights and watermarks: Arizona GOP recount mired in conspiracy theories


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Arizona Republicans forensic audit as part of a partisan recount of 2020 election results in Maricopa County has been accused of going down a conspiracy theory-filled rabbit hole relying on completely unnecessary gear to find evidence of voter fraud.

On Wednesday, one audit official said auditors were examining whether any ballots contained bamboo fibers to determine whether China delivered thousands of ballots with votes for Joe Biden, among the dozens of false claims that circulated within the discredited far-right QAnon conspiracy theory.

Three earlier reviews of results have shown no evidence of widespread fraud or reason to doubt the results in the states most populous county, which Mr Biden won by more than 45,000 votes.

But Republicans in the states Senate now are leading an audit performed by a private company whose founder supported Donald Trumps stolen election lies and the Stop the Steal campaign.

There are accusations that 40,000 ballots were flown into Arizona and it was stuffed into the box, and it came from the southeast part of the world Asia and what theyre doing is to find out if theres bamboo in the paper, said John Brakey, an assistant to former Arizona secretary of state Ken Bennett, who is acting as the audits liaison.

I dont believe any of them, Mr Brakey told a Phoenix CBS affiliate. Theyre doing all sorts of testing to prove if it was or wasnt, and thats very important, because the only way youre going to persuade people on changing is having facts, and were on a mission for facts.

As reported by Slate, the bamboo conspiracy theory appears to have emerged from Jovan Pulitzer, who has claimed to have invented a technology to detect whether a ballots ink and folds might indicate forgery.

The Arizona allegations also echo other fraud claims that were widely circulated among QAnon proponents, including a belief that Mr Trump secretly watermarked ballots.

Conspiracy theorists in an attempt to decode the phrase watch the water on the Q-affiliated message board website 8kun, formerly 8chan, in 2018 falsely believed that the former president directed mail-in ballots include watermarks to promote a baseless allegation that Democrats were stuffing ballot boxes with fraudulent votes.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-finally-found-some-voter-fraud-mark-meadows-registered-to-vote-at-an-n-c-dive-trailer/ar-AAUKOQU


“GOP finally found some voter fraud”: Mark Meadows registered to vote at an N.C. "dive trailer"


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Mark Meadows listens as US President Donald Trump holds a Make America Great Again rally as he campaigns in Gastonia, North Carolina, October 21, 2020. SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images

Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows claimed to live in a small mobile home in North Carolina on his voter registration form, potentially violating voting laws, according to The New Yorker.


Meadows, who played a key role in boosting former President Donald Trump's debunked lies about widespread election fraud, possibly committed voter fraud himself by listing his primary residence as a 14-foot-by-62-foot mobile home in Scaly Mountain, North Carolina — where he may not have spent a single night — weeks before the state's voter registration deadline, according to the report.

Meadows, who previously represented a North Carolina district in Congress, sold his 2,200-square-foot home in the town of Sapphire, when he became Trump's top aide in March 2020. In September of that year, three weeks before the state's voter registration deadline, he listed the mobile home on a line of the form that asked for the residential address "where you physically live."

"GOP finally found some voter fraud," quipped former Solicitor General Neal Katyal.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you got to love the statement I highlighted. Kinda can be applied to all trumper right wingers in the usa that are delusional to reality.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/wisconsin-gop-keep-sham-election-audit-going-even-longer-rcna19289


Wisconsin GOP to keep its sham election ‘audit’ going even longer
After a Wisconsin judge concluded that the “investigation” into the state’s 2020 results barely exists, GOP legislators extended the length of their probe.


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Wisconsin Republicans originally envisioned a relatively brief — and wildly unnecessary — investigation into the state’s 2020 presidential election.

GOP legislators agreed to invest nearly $680,000 in taxpayer money into their scheme; they hired a partisan conspiracy theorist to tell the party what it wanted to hear; and they expected to have a sham report that would make Donald Trump and his followers feel better about their defeat.

Months later, the process isn’t just a fiasco, it’s also taking a ridiculously long time. The Associated Press reported:

Wisconsin’s Republican Assembly speaker signed a new contract Tuesday with Michael Gableman, the former state Supreme Court justice he hired to investigate the 2020 election, extending his review through the end of April. The extension comes after the original contract expired on Dec. 31 and a week after Gableman delivered a widely panned report that called for the Legislature to take a serious look at decertifying President Joe Biden’s win in the battleground state.

The timing could’ve been better. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that shortly before Wisconsin Republicans agreed to extend the duration of the sham “audit,” a state judge released records showing the investigation has barely done any real work.

As he made public 761 pages of records, Dane County Circuit Judge Frank Remington said, “I believe that it’s for every man now ... to examine these documents. And I believe when done so (he) will come to the conclusion that this has been much to-do about nothing, that these documents do not support the argument that there has been an investigation, much less the conclusions that have been made by the Office of Special Counsel.”

This comes a week after Gableman pushed a series of strange and discredited ideas, while claiming the state legislature should decertify the results of the election from 16 months ago.

The Washington Post’s Philip Bump, who highlighted several of Gableman’s absurdities, concluded, “This Wisconsin ‘fraud’ report is so mind-bogglingly stupid that I’m honestly amazed the man responsible for it sat on the state Supreme Court.”

In case anyone needs a refresher, let’s take stock of how we arrived at this head-shaking moment.

Wisconsin Republicans, unsatisfied with the actual election results, launched a bizarre “investigation” last year. To lead the effort, GOP officials tapped Gableman — a “Stop the Steal” conspiracy theorist and former Trump appointee.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the 2020 census. Nearly 19 million residents were miscounted in some way, not undercounted.
Thursday, March 10, 2022 7:31 PM EST

The Census Bureau said that the overall population total was accurate but that counts of minorities were skewed. Advocacy groups threatened to go to court.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Democracy entails listening to the electorate--not picking your own voters.
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By Amy Gardner
Today at 6:00 a.m. EST

Harris County Elections Administrator Isabel Longoria, right, announced her resignation after roughly 10,000 ballots weren't counted in an unofficial tally of primary results. (Mark Felix for The Washington Post)



Voting machines failed to power up. Poll workers handed out the wrong-size ballots. Optical scanners rejected hundreds of votes.

And then, as if enough hadn’t gone wrong during the March 1 primary in Harris County, Tex., a weary election worker who had been on the job for at least 30 hours neglected to include about 10,000 of the roughly 360,000 total votes in an unofficial tally published a day after polls had closed.

One week later, there’s one thing everyone agrees on: The primary was an error-riddled disaster. Isabel Longoria, the county’s top elections official, tendered her resignation this week and declared, “We lost the faith of the voters.”

What Republicans and Democrats in the nation’s third most-populous county don’t agree on, however, is exactly what went wrong or what to do about it. Republicans are suing and demanding that the state take over the Democratic-controlled elections office. Democrats say the problem is a new law enacted by Republicans that made it harder to vote by mail and criminalized election mistakes.

Rejected mail ballots, confused voters: Texas’s restrictive new law casts shadow over primary

The result, in Harris County at least, is new evidence of a weakened system too fragile to withstand the everyday glitches and mistakes of running an election in a state where the parties are too deeply divided to fix those problems together. That worries voting advocates, who fear a worst-case scenario in which a majority of Americans simply don’t trust the outcome of elections anymore.


“Politicizing our elections weakens faith in our democracy,” said Chris Hollins, a Democrat who ran elections in Harris County in 2020 and is now running to be Houston mayor. “Instead of saying, ‘Great, the process works,’ the response is, ‘Look what happens when Democrats run a city.’ Or, ‘Look what happens when they change this law.’”

Nearly a year and a half after the 2020 election, former president Donald Trump’s false claim that the result was stolen continues to reverberate across the country. Trump’s assertions persuaded millions of supporters that U.S. elections are tainted with mass fraud, prompted a wave of restrictive new voting laws, and pushed Democrats in many states to vehemently oppose most new laws and accuse the GOP of intentionally undermining faith in elections.

Harris County has been an epicenter of those forces. Home of Houston and governed by a Democratic majority, the county made headlines in 2020 by expanding voting access to counter the effects of the pandemic. Officials sent mail-in ballot applications to eligible voters, operated drive-through early-voting sites and established drop-off locations for voters to deposit their ballots if they preferred not to vote in person or use the mail.

Texas election official explains mail-in ballot rejections
Reuters interviewed Harris County's top election official, Isabel Longoria, shortly before the Texas primary. Longoria resigned after ballots weren't counted. (Reuters)
Many Republicans vilified the changes. After Harris County went for Joe Biden by more than 13 points, GOP lawmakers claimed without evidence that the new practices had invited fraud, and in September, they enacted a sweeping election bill that outlawed many of them. Senate Bill 1 also established new identification requirements for mail voting, imposed new criminal penalties for a variety of election-worker infractions and added new vote-count reporting requirements on election night.


Democrats fiercely resisted the law, arguing it would disenfranchise voters and set large counties up for failure with difficult demands to reconcile results on election night.

The March 1 primary offered the first real-world test of the law’s effects. As Democrats warned, it’s clear that a high percentage of mail ballots were rejected under the law’s new identification requirements. As of Thursday, the secretary of state’s office said it expected that around 10 percent of mail ballots statewide were rejected — a far higher rate of rejections than before SB1 was enacted.

“To be clear, the election was thrown into chaos the moment that Senate Bill 1 passed the legislature,” said Lina Hidalgo (D), who leads the Harris County Commissioners Court.


Longoria also cited the law to explain the chaos that erupted in her office on March 1.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

real-human wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-finally-found-some-voter-fraud-mark-meadows-registered-to-vote-at-an-n-c-dive-trailer/ar-AAUKOQU


“GOP finally found some voter fraud”: Mark Meadows registered to vote at an N.C. "dive trailer"


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Mark Meadows listens as US President Donald Trump holds a Make America Great Again rally as he campaigns in Gastonia, North Carolina, October 21, 2020. SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images

Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows claimed to live in a small mobile home in North Carolina on his voter registration form, potentially violating voting laws, according to The New Yorker.


Meadows, who played a key role in boosting former President Donald Trump's debunked lies about widespread election fraud, possibly committed voter fraud himself by listing his primary residence as a 14-foot-by-62-foot mobile home in Scaly Mountain, North Carolina — where he may not have spent a single night — weeks before the state's voter registration deadline, according to the report.

Meadows, who previously represented a North Carolina district in Congress, sold his 2,200-square-foot home in the town of Sapphire, when he became Trump's top aide in March 2020. In September of that year, three weeks before the state's voter registration deadline, he listed the mobile home on a line of the form that asked for the residential address "where you physically live."

"GOP finally found some voter fraud," quipped former Solicitor General Neal Katyal.



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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/mark-meadows-faces-new-investigation-voter-registration-rcna20574?cid=eml_mra_20220318&user_email=e73377d3e40790eecbf6a99203e1476ea2a23c644c2045abd739b8f9e629a73b


Mark Meadows faces new investigation over his voter registration
Mark Meadows appears to have voted from a North Carolina address where he did not live. The matter is now under investigation.


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REVEALED: Trump appointee ordered DHS to probe voter fraud 'fantasy' months before 2020 election


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One of Donald Trump's top political appointees directed the Department of Homeland Security to investigate voter fraud in the 2020 election -- more than six months before the votes were counted.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gee more top level vote fraud by ultra partisan right wingers... Is this getting front page news all over the media? bet not, if it was owned by me a liberal I would have this front page...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-aide-seeking-nh-house-seat-voted-in-2-states-in-2016/ar-AAVSfFt?cvid=e5d8dd1f5aa14656a6521ab8ae950675&ocid=winp2oct


Trump aide seeking NH House seat voted in 2 states in 2016


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CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — A former Trump administration official now running for Congress in New Hampshire voted twice during the 2016 primary election season, potentially violating federal voting law and leaving him at odds with the Republican Party’s intense focus on “election integrity."

Matt Mowers, a leading Republican primary candidate looking to unseat Democratic Rep. Chris Pappas, cast an absentee ballot in New Hampshire's 2016 presidential primary, voting records show. At the time, Mowers served as the director of former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's presidential campaign in the pivotal early voting state.

Four months later, after Christie's bid fizzled, Mowers cast another ballot in New Jersey's Republican presidential primary, using his parents' address to re-register in his home state, documents The Associated Press obtained through a public records request show.

Legal experts say Mowers' actions could violate a federal law that prohibits “voting more than once” in “any general, special, or primary election." That includes casting a ballot in separate jurisdictions “for an election to the same candidacy or office.” It also puts Mowers, who was a senior adviser in Donald Trump's administration and later held a State Department post, in an awkward spot at a time when much of his party has embraced the former president's lies about a stolen 2020 election and has pushed for restrictive new election laws.

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