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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:33 pm    Post subject: Fascist Florida Reply with quote

What do you want to bet we hear nothing from the land of pig shit lagoons about censorship? Apparently the right only subscribes to the second amendment, as re-written.

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A Florida teacher was fired this week after posting a video of empty bookshelves that Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) called “a fake narrative” at a time when teachers in the state are removing or covering books in public schools to comply with new state laws.

Brian Covey, a substitute teacher at Mandarin Middle School in Jacksonville, posted a video to Twitter last month showing rows of empty bookshelves at the school’s library. Covey is one of several teachers in Duval and Manatee counties who’ve posted photos or videos in recent weeks showing how school districts are responding to new Florida laws regarding books and materials available to children in classrooms and libraries. Duval County Public Schools, the district for Mandarin Middle School, urged educators last month to follow the new laws and “err on the side of caution” to determine whether a book “is developmentally appropriate for student use.”

“They removed every single book from my children’s classrooms …” he wrote on Jan. 27. “I read books about the consequences of this when I was in school …”
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The joys of sucking an adults Dick" great books for great minds
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
"The joys of sucking an adults Dick" great books for great minds


You are a sick person who believes fantasies. Seek mental health help.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The full story so there is no misunderstanding.

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School teachers in Florida’s Manatee county are removing books from their classrooms or physically covering them up after a new bill went into effect that prohibited material unless deemed appropriate by a librarian, or “certified media specialist”.

If a teacher is found in violation of these guidelines, they could face felony charges.

The new guidelines for the Florida law, known as HB 1467, outline the books be free of pornographic material, suited to student needs and their ability to comprehend the material, and appropriate for the grade level and age group.

In order to determine if the books meet these guidelines, certified media specialists must undergo an online training developed by Florida’s department of education.

With only a few or even one media specialist present in each school, the process to vet books is lengthy.

Scrutiny of teaching material in Florida schools heightened under the leadership of the rightwing Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, whose administration says it is actively working to “protect parental rights”, which includes a prohibition on childhood education on gender, sexual orientation and critical race theory.

DeSantis has emerged as a legitimate rival to Donald Trump in the Republican party. The former US president has already declared his 2024 candidacy for another White House run, while DeSantis is widely expected to do so later this year.

As part of his appeal to the party’s rightwing base DeSantis has sought to portray himself as a culture war warrior, cracking down on LGBTQ rights and taking conservative stances on the fight against Covid-19 and a host of other issues such as immigration.

In 2021, he announced the Stop Woke (Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees) Act to “give businesses, employees, children and families tools to fight back against woke indoctrination”.

Teachers have condemned the new guidelines.

The Manatee Education Association union president, Pat Barber, told local TV station Fox 13: “We have people who have spent their entire careers building their classroom libraries based on their professional and educational experience and understanding of the age of the children they teach.”

Barber added: “Now, their professional judgment and training are being substituted for the opinion of anyone who wishes to review and challenge the books. We’re focused on things that cause teachers to want to walk away from education because they can’t focus on their mission of educating children.”

Some teachers are even covering up their library books with paper.

Don Falls, a history teacher at Manatee high school, told the Herald-Tribune newspaper: “If you have a lot of books like I do, probably several hundred, it is not practical to run all of them through [the vetting process] so we have to cover them up.”

More school districts in Florida are expected to follow suit as a result of such policies this year. The state’s education department issued a deadline of 1 July 2023 for when “the superintendent of schools in each district must certify to the FDOE Commissioner that all school librarians and media specialists have completed this training”.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/24/florida-manatee-county-books-certified-media-specialist
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Censorship. No misunderstanding.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many school libraries have NEVER had censorship? That's the norm, there are thousands of books and library materials that are inappropriate for schools that have and will always be censored from school libraries.

The point is - what is or is not appropriate? There has and will always be disagreement regarding this issue.

For the teachers that covered all their books or have had them removed - simple rebellion.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
How many school libraries have NEVER had censorship? That's the norm, there are thousands of books and library materials that are inappropriate for schools that have and will always be censored from school libraries.

The point is - what is or is not appropriate? There has and will always be disagreement regarding this issue.

For the teachers that covered all their books or have had them removed - simple rebellion.


Sigh. The brfainwashed right has no understanding of the Constitution. Years of railing about the editorial policies of Twitter--which is a business, not an arm of the government. The unfortunate facts, not understood by the Techno's of the world, is that Twitter looked the other way when Trump violated their standards, and only acted when he used Twitter to try to overthrow the government. The term for that is sedition.

The first amendment prohibits goivernment efforts to interfere with free speech--exactly what is going on in Florida, Texas, and other deep red states. The language, which Techno does not appear to understand or support, is:

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay focused Mac. We are talking about books in school libraries. Are you saying there should be no censorship of any books in elementary - high school libraries? Removing inappropriate reading material in school libraries is not prohibiting free speech.

Mac said: "The first amendment prohibits goivernment(sic) efforts to interfere with free speech--exactly what is going on in Florida, Texas, and other deep red states.

Please show me that removing material as stated:
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The new guidelines for the Florida law, known as HB 1467, outline the books be free of pornographic material, suited to student needs and their ability to comprehend the material, and appropriate for the grade level and age group.
interferes with free speech.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
Stay focused Mac. We are talking about books in school libraries. Are you saying there should be no censorship of any books in elementary - high school libraries? Removing inappropriate reading material in school libraries is not prohibiting free speech.

Mac said: "The first amendment prohibits goivernment(sic) efforts to interfere with free speech--exactly what is going on in Florida, Texas, and other deep red states.

Please show me that removing material as stated:
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The new guidelines for the Florida law, known as HB 1467, outline the books be free of pornographic material, suited to student needs and their ability to comprehend the material, and appropriate for the grade level and age group.
interferes with free speech.


The fool on the hill argues that only pornographic material is being censored. He is wrong. But he and Malibu Bard, incapable of understanding irony, are standing firm with the Muslim conservatives who issued a fatwa against Rushdie—and those that stabbed him, and his interpreters. You must be so proud. Anything to take your mind off pig shit lagoons.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was really about actual pornographic material in school libraries, nothing would have had to be removed. Pornographic material is not in public school libraries and never was. Trying to claim that there is is a bold lie.

What we have here is blatant and unwarranted government action against freedom of speech. Like it or not, there are gender and sexual orientation issues that exist in society, even with young folks in our schools. Trying to stamp it out using a government edict simply will not work. It's best to be honest about the problems and differences we have and deal with them in a rational way. Having a Christian Taliban at the government level in our country dictating was is right in society is unAmerican and against the Constitution. The fact that we have this nonsense trying to grow in America is a disaster in the making. Democracy is being threatened to the core.
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