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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-to-receive-critical-evidence-showing-trump-knew-classified-documents-claims-were-false/ar-AA1bkqGs?cvid=a55c142a54834d3c98361e89cd9930d4&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=10
Special counsel to receive 'critical evidence' showing Trump knew classified documents claims were false
| Quote: | The National Archives has notified U.S. Dept. of Justice Special Counsel Jack Smith it has critical evidence proving Donald Trump knew his claims about being able to declassify classified and top secret documents just by declaring them declassified were false.
CNN in an exclusive report reveals the National Archives (NARA) says it has a set of 16 documents detailing communications between them and Trump’s top staffers, and Trump himself, that shows procedures required to declassify intelligence.
“The 16 records in question all reflect communications involving close presidential advisers, some of them directed to you personally, concerning whether, why, and how you should declassify certain classified records,” acting Archivist Debra Steidel Wall said in a May 16 letter to Trump.
The Special Counsel says those records are “not practically available from another source.”
Last September Trump told Fox News host Sean Hannity a very different story.
RELATED: Former Top FBI Official Says Proving Intent in Possible Trump Classified Document Crime a ‘Slam Dunk’
“There doesn’t have to be a process, as I understand it,” Trump falsely claimed. “You’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it’s declassified, even by thinking about it.”
CNN reports the “16 presidential records, which were subpoenaed earlier this year, may provide critical evidence establishing the former president’s awareness of the declassification process, a key part of the criminal investigation into Trump’s mishandling of classified documents.”
The documents “may also provide insight into Trump’s intent and whether he willfully disregarded what he knew to be clearly established protocols, according to a source familiar with recent testimony provided to the grand jury by former top Trump officials.”
Special Counsel Jack Smith is investigating Trump on two fronts: his possibly unlawful mishandling of classified intelligence, including his possibly unlawful removal from the White House, retention, and refusal to return hundreds of classified documents, and Trump’s actions to overturn the 2020 election.
RELATED: ‘Are You Kidding Me?’ Legal Experts Stunned as More Trump Classified Docs Discovered – at a Florida Storage Facility
Last August, responding to news reports he was allegedly under FBI investigation for actions covered by the Espionage Act by making apparently false claims about his mishandling of classified documents and about former President Barack Obama, Trump said on his social media platform,“ Number one, it was all declassified.” That does not appear to have been true.
“Number two,” Trump continued, “they didn’t need to ‘seize’ anything,” he claimed, apparently referring to the FBI’s execution of a lawful subpoena on Mar-a-Lago last summer to retrieve the documents and thousands of other items taken from the White House.
Just last week at CNN’s highly-criticized Trump town hall, the ex-president again made false claims about classified documents and procedures required to declassify them.
“And, by the way, they become automatically declassified when I took them,” Trump said (video below), which is false.
Trump also claimed he had “the absolute right to do whatever I want with” classified documents, and claimed he had never shown them to anyone.
Watch videos of Trump above or at this link. |
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/he-s-got-it-backwards-trump-lawyer-s-mar-a-lago-docs-claims-torched-by-cnn-legal-analyst/ar-AA1bmxeh?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=dfc39f3dcf5048d39440b88212d72b6d&ei=25
'He's got it backwards': Trump lawyer's Mar-a-Lago docs claims torched by CNN legal analyst
| Quote: | Akey Trump lawyer's claim about the former president's right to retain classified information at his Mar-a-Lago resort is completely reversed from how the law actually works, argued former federal prosecutor Elie Honig on CNN Thursday.
Honig's explanation came in response to host Sara Sidner discussing her interview with attorney Jim Trusty the previous evening, where they argued over Trump's repeated claim that he can declassify anything he wants and take it from the National Archives just by thinking about it.
"Let's look at the Presidential Records Act and what it actually says," said Sidner. "It says 'The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of presidential records,' and under federal law, willfully removing any record or document carries the possibility of a three-year prison sentence. We went — we looked it up, as journalists do. And nowhere does it say you can mentally just think about it and they are declassified."
"You've packed so many misstatements into one question or whatever it was," said Trusty. "The Presidential Records Act does not have a criminal enforcement component to itself. Look at it again."
"Is he right?" Sidner asked Honig. "There's no way to criminally prosecute this? There's no enforcement component?"
"He's wrong on a couple respects," said Honig. "There is an enforcement component. The Act does include some of the crimes listed by DOJ in the Mar-a-Lago search warrant. The other thing is, Mr. Trusty, who I used to work with at DOJ, not closely, he has it backwards. What the Act says is, presumptively, any White House or presidential records belong to the government, the American public. If you're a president or former president, and you want to claim some of those as your own or restrict access, you can try to do that, and here's the process. But he seems to say they belong to the president as an individual or human being, and if the government is lucky, they get some." |
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obstruction-and-espionage-act-legal-expert-says-trump-attorney-s-notes-show-evidence-of-willfulness/ar-AA1bzJDY?cvid=13226942136f4f31991a7c33c8205266&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=5
'Obstruction and Espionage Act': Legal expert says Trump attorney’s notes show 'evidence of willfulness'
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Dept. of Justice
Special Counsel Jack Smith
has struck “gold” after obtaining the contemporaneous notes of a Trump attorney who counseled the ex-president on his possibly unlawful removal, retention, and refusal to return hundreds of classified documents from the White House, says a top legal expert and former special counsel.
“Special Counsel Smith strikes gold,” tweeted NYU School of Law professor of law Ryan Goodman, the founding co-editor-in-chief of Just Security, an NYU website on U.S. national security law and policy.
Goodman pointed to a CNN article titled, “Trump’s attorney took notes that say the former president wanted to fight subpoena for classified docs.”
“Donald Trump asked whether he could push back against Justice Department efforts last year to recover any classified documents still in his possession during conversations with his lawyer over compliance with a federal subpoena, according to multiple sources familiar with notes taken by his lawyer and turned over to investigators,” CNN reported.
READ MORE: Special Counsel Subpoena Orders Trump Organization to Hand Over Records From Seven Different Foreign Countries
“Special counsel Jack Smith has obtained dozens of pages of notes that Trump’s attorney Evan Corcoran took last spring, memorializing conversations with his client after the former president received the subpoena last May and before a key meeting with the Justice Department a few weeks later when Trump’s legal team said they had turned over all classified records they could find, the sources told CNN.”
Goodman highlights aspects of the reporting. He writes: “Trump’s team ‘surprised about the level of detail,'” and “Obtains ‘dozens of pages of notes’ of Trump attorney ‘memorializing conversations with his client.'”
“My take,” he summarizes, “Contains evidence of obstruction & Espionage Act.”
Goodman continues, citing CNN, and says, “the notes show over the course of conversations with Trump, ‘the attorney explained that the subpoena meant Trump would need to return all records.'”
“As [former U.S. Attorney Barb McQuade] explained with The Guardian’s Hugo Lowell’s “scoop, that is evidence of willfulness,” Goodman says.
He then points to this sentence from CNN: “Trump, when informed by his lawyer about the subpoena and how he should respond, asked if there was any way to fight it.”
Goodman says that “is evidence of Espionage Act ‘willful retention,’ 18 USC 793(e), and Obstruction, 18 USC 1519.”
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-subpoenas-trump-organization-for-foreign-records-in-documents-case/ar-AA1bxR03?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=1a38ed038f2f4af7ab2c676a6dcb356b&ei=26
Special counsel subpoenas Trump Organization for foreign records in documents case
| Quote: | The special counsel's investigation into former President Donald Trump's handling of classified documents has subpoenaed records from the Trump Organization, including foreign financial records from seven countries, The New York Times reported Monday.
"It remains unclear precisely what the prosecutors were hoping to find by sending the subpoena to Mr. Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, or when it was issued," the Times reported. "But the subpoena suggests that investigators have cast a wider net than previously understood as they scrutinize whether he broke the law in taking sensitive government materials with him upon leaving the White House and then not fully complying with demands for their return."
Special counsel Jack Smith has been investigating the mishandling of government documents by the former president. Among the documents that were allegedly taken by Trump were classified pieces of information that revealed international secrets as well as the sources and methods to access them.
The Trump Organization has real estate licensing and development deals in China, France, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and Oman, the Times reported.
"The push by Mr. Smith’s prosecutors to gain insight into the former president’s foreign business was part of a subpoena — previously reported by The New York Times — that was sent to the Trump Organization and sought records related to Mr. Trump’s dealings with a Saudi-backed golf venture known as LIV Golf, which is holding tournaments at some of his golf clubs." |
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/john-kelly-choice-words-former-white-house-boss-rcna89498?
John Kelly has some more choice words for his former White House boss
| Quote: | | “He’s scared s---less,” said John Kelly, his former chief of staff. “This is the way he compensates for that. He gives people the appearance he doesn’t care by doing this. For the first time in his life, it looks like he’s being held accountable. Up until this point in his life, it’s like, ‘I’m not going to pay you; take me to court.’ He’s never been held accountable before.” |
https://www.msnbc.com/alex-wagner-tonight/watch/why-the-alarming-inexperience-of-the-trump-judge-in-the-classified-documents-case-matters-182306373649
Why the 'alarming' inexperience of the Trump judge in the classified documents case matters
| Quote: | | Alex Wagner looks at how little experience controversial, Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon has to be presiding over any criminal case, but especially one involving classified national security materials. |
Must recuse oneself as fed judge if impartiality might reasonably be questioned. which she has shown she can not be impartial.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/laurence-tribe-normal-judge-wouldn-t-tolerate-trump-s-docs-case-arguments-182070853602?cid=referral_taboolafeed
Laurence Tribe: Normal judge wouldn’t tolerate Trump’s docs case arguments
| Quote: | | Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe joins MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss Judge Cannon’s decision to refuse cameras or a live audio feed of Donald Trump’s arraignment and why he is “desperately worried” if Judge Cannon is not removed from the case. |
https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/weissmann-shares-the-two-things-judge-cannon-wrote-that-he-believes-meet-the-standard-for-recusal-181768773530?cid=referral_taboolafeed
Weissmann shares the two things Judge Cannon wrote that he believes ‘meet the standard for recusal’
| Quote: | | Former President Donald Trump will head to Florida for his arraignment after his second indictment by a grand jury, this time on federal charges in relation to his alleged mishandling of classified documents. NBC News Capitol Hill Correspondent Garrett Haake and MSNBC Legal Analyst Andrew Weissmann join Andrea to examine the possible issues with Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon overseeing the case. “There are two things that she wrote that are, particularly, I think, troublesome to me, and I think meet the standard for recusal,” says Weissmann. “One is that she said that Donald Trump is entitled to deference, because of his former position,” which he explains “is antithetical to the rule of law in this country.” He adds, “The other is that she treated the classified documents that were found in the search, I think, quite cavalierly. And she was reversed on that ground. And that's very much the issue here in this case, which is the two defendants’ treatment of classified documents.” |
https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/fmr-cia-counsel-comparing-trump-s-handling-of-classified-docs-to-hillary-clinton-s-is-nuts-182202949925?cid=referral_taboolafeed
Fmr. CIA Counsel: Comparing Trump’s handling of classified docs to Hillary Clinton’s is 'nuts'
| Quote: | | After being arraigned on federal criminal charges for allegedly mishandling classified documents, former President Donald Trump and his allies have attempted to compare the documents case with the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server, which she used as secretary of state. Jeffrey Smith, the former General Counsel to the CIA, joins Andrea Mitchell to react. “It’s just nuts. The difference is profound. In those cases, as in other cases where people are realized they have classified information, they turn it over right away,” says Smith. “Trump has demonstrated that his intent to keep them after having been told repeatedly, and getting a subpoena, he's shown the intent, he wants to keep them in direct contradiction of the law.” |
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Two weeks ago, a federal judge sentenced Robert Birchum, a former Air Force lieutenant colonel, to three years in jail for removing hundreds of secret documents from their authorized locations and storing them in his home and officer’s quarters.
In April, a judge sentenced Jeremy Brown, a former member of U.S. Special Forces, to more than seven years in prison partly for taking a classified report home with him after he retired. The report contained sensitive intelligence, including about an informant in another country.
In 2018, Nghia Hoang Pho received a five-and-a-half year sentence for storing National Security Agency documents at his home. Prosecutors emphasized that Pho was aware he was not supposed to have taken the documents.
These three recent cases are among dozens in which the Justice Department has charged people with removing classified information from its proper place and trying to conceal their actions. That list includes several former high-ranking officials, like David Petraeus and John Deutch, who each ran the C.I.A.
Now, of course, the list also includes Donald Trump, who was arraigned in a Miami federal courthouse yesterday and pleaded not guilty to 37 charges. |
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again Trump went after Reality Winner who told us that trump was lying as the government did know Russia was involved in the elections. Why wasn't the government telling us we were under attack and trump lying... And trump going after this person with everything as that does not sound to me to be anything needing classification. sounds like deep state under right wingers hiding the truth, as we know Trump begged russia to break laws and go after hillary and they did so by attacking the DNC as the hillary server was more protected than the DNC server.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/reality-winner-prosecutor-provides-roadmap-for-speeding-up-trump-s-espionage-trial/ar-AA1cIdyS?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=59e46c072d28426b8c5a73f3148fd569&ei=56
Reality Winner prosecutor provides roadmap for speeding up Trump's espionage trial
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Deep in a report on the roadblocks the Department of Justice will face prosecuting Donald Trump for violations of the Espionage Act, the lead prosecutor who sent former NSA translator Reality Winner to prison for unauthorized release of government information pointed the way to expediting the former president's trial.
According to a report from the Washington Post, trials involving top secret documents face a massive amount of hurdles because of potential exposure of what is contained in the documents at the center of the indictment.
With Trump facing a 37-count indictment brought by special counsel Jack Smith, the Post's Devlin Barrett and Perry Stein wrote, "Trump’s indictment on dozens of charges, including mishandling classified documents and trying to obstruct investigators’ efforts to recover that material, means his case will be tried under the rules of the Classified Information Procedures Act, or CIPA — a law that could, in theory, delay any trial until after the 2024 presidential election," before adding, "If Trump, who is a candidate in that election and leading in Republican polls, were to win, he might try to directthe Justice Department to drop the case against him."
According to former DOJ prosecutor David Aaron who specialized in national security cases, there are ways to get around some of the roadblocks. |
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-2024-campaign-aide-who-viewed-classified-docs-linked-to-chinese-lobbying-firm-report/ar-AA1deiue?cvid=f147d8aaffe3405f84b6fe09eb5e30b7&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6
Trump 2024 campaign aide who viewed classified docs linked to Chinese lobbying firm: report
| Quote: | Atop Donald Trump 2024 campaign advisor who prosecutors allege viewed classified documents is employed by a firm with links to China that poses a potential national security threat and enables human rights abuses, The New York Post reports.
Susan Wiles serves as co-chair of Mercury Public Affairs, which has taken millions of dollars from several high-profile Chinese companies including Yealink, Hikvision, and Alibaba.
Wiles also served on the staff of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ 2018 gubernatorial run.
Special counsel Jack Smith’ 37-count indictment against Trump over allegations the former president mishandled classified documents identifies Wiles as “PAC Representative” whom Trump showed classified documents to, ABC News reports, citing sources familiar with the matter.
Josh Christenson writes for The Post, “If confirmed, the episode is further complicated by both Wiles’ high standing in the Trump campaign and her closeness to potential hostile entities through her firm’s lobbying work.”
Mercury, the lobbying firm that employs Wiles, was paid $240,000 in 2022 by a telecommunications company that had been flagged for security issues, the report said.
The report notes that Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) in Sept. 2021 wrote a letter to Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo to alert the agency that a security analytics company determined that Yealink’s phones had software installed that secretly records calls and tracks web browsing.
The data can be transferred to administrators in China who are required by the government to comply with any requests to turn over any information related to national security, the report said.
Wiles figures to be a potentially damaging witness should she turn against the former president, a GOP operative from a rival campaign told The Post.
“Susie could put Trump away for years in just one minute of testimony to Jack Smith,” the operative told The Post.
“She’s got Trump by the balls, which means she can name her price for her loyalty and Trump can’t say no.” |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/key-figure-in-indictment-revealed-susie-wiles-identified-in-trump-s-classified-docs-case/vi-AA1dgo84?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=a97be14903f5416aad1e159a3b0d8e35&ei=11
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OMG the trump server room got flooded by the employee who asked the guy in charge of the security camera backups how long they are backed up and other questions. This was not the pool maintenance guy. But one of the guys involved in moving the documents for trump. Then he emptied the pool right into the room that had all the drives/tapes/recordings. After the government noticed that there were gaps in the subpoenaed tapes/records showing them moving boxes into the room the day before the government was coming to inspect. The government then subpoenaed the camera outside that room. then it flooded.
https://www.msnbc.com/alex-wagner-tonight/watch/new-grand-jury-intrigues-trump-legal-watchers-but-evidence-remains-trump-s-biggest-problem-180727877737
New grand jury intrigues Trump legal watchers but evidence remains Trump's biggest problem
| Quote: | | Neal Katyal, former acting solicitor general of the United States, talks with Alex Wagner about why DOJ special counsel Jack Smith would be using a second grand jury in Florida in addition to one in Washington, D.C. in his investigation of Donald Trump, a makes the point that the overwhelming evidence of Donald Trump's guilt in the Mar-a-Lago documents case is what ultimately matters the most. |
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