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swchandler
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 Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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If there is any value to impeachment, it would be to bar and prevent Donald Trump from any attempt to run for president again.
His fall from office today must to be an absolutely permanent end to political ambitions. Thoughtful folks know that his first impeachment didn't send the needed message, thanks to Senate Republicans, so it's not surprising that Trump has arrogantly blown the boundaries of democracy in his dreams of his own raw power. The guy needs to hit the ground hard and never get up again.
It needs to happen. |
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real-human
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| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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nope evil needs to know he will be looked at by history as a serious danger to democracy. His record needs such a mark on it to stop the next right winger from doing it again and again. The dems F-ed up with Nixon so we have a trump. They should have gone to the supreme court to remove the pardon, and if the supreme court did not then put it in the constitution that you can not pardon your disgraced boss or anyone he ever appointed or worked with to get to the whitehouse or while in contact with the whitehouse or family.
These issue were neglected by the liberals and now we are paying the price. A president is not above the law and it needed to be settled with Nixon, and now we need to make sure we settle it with Trump and his criminals.
Else you are rewarding corruption of the highest. and a ted cruise or similar will use it if he is elected.
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real-human
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https://news.yahoo.com/us-capitol-officer-dies-suicide-172558821.html
US Capitol Officer Dies by Suicide, Second Police Death Since Riot
| Quote: | A second U.S. Capitol Police officer, Howard Liebengood, has died following Wednesday’s insurrection. Although no cause of death was formally announced, Punchbowl News’ Jake Sherman reports that it was by suicide.
Liebengood, 51, was assigned to the Senate Division of the Capitol Police and had been with the department since April 2005.
“Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family, friends, and colleagues,” reads a statement from the Capitol Police. “We ask that his family, and other USCP officers’ and their families’ privacy be respected during this profoundly difficult time.”
Also Read: US Capitol Police Officer Dies From Wounds Sustained During the MAGA Riot
CBSNews chief Congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes remembered Liebengood as someone “who always had a smile on his face and a kind word to share.”
I'll remember Howard Liebengood as a truly friendly Capitol Police officer who always had a smile on his face and a kind word to share, even at 6:45 in the morning.
Tragic.https://t.co/6z3FLaZFPr
— Nancy Cordes (@nancycordes) January 10, 2021
Also Read: Judge Jeanine Demands Capitol Riot 'Freaks' Stop Blaming Antifa for What They Did (Video)
Liebengood’s father, Howard Sr., was the Senate Sargeant at Arms in the early 1980s and previously served as chief of staff for two Republican senators. He later became a lobbyist, who worked with former Trump 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort.
Liebengood is the second Capitol Police officer to die following the Washington, D.C., riots incited by President Trump. Officer Brian D. Sicknick was injured Wednesday after being struck by a fire extinguisher and taken to a local hospital. He died on Thursday; his death is being investigated as a homicide in partnership with other law enforcement agencies, the U.S. Capitol Police said in a statement. |
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real-human
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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these experts also understand why he needs to be impeached...
https://news.yahoo.com/us-diplomats-extraordinary-protest-against-193247794.html
US diplomats in extraordinary protest against Trump for riotWASHINGTON (AP) — In a highly unusual move, American diplomats have drafted two cables condemning President Donald Trump’s incitement of the deadly assault on the Capitol and calling for administration officials to possibly support invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him from office.
Using what is known as the State Department's “dissent channel,” career foreign and civil service officers said they fear last Wednesday's siege may badly undermine U.S. credibility to promote and defend democratic values abroad.
[b]“Failing to publicly hold the president to account would further damage our democracy and our ability to effectively accomplish our foreign policy goals abroad,” according to the second of the two cables, which were circulated among diplomats late last week and then sent to State Department leadership.
The cable called on Pompeo to support any lawful effort by Vice President Mike Pence and other Cabinet members to protect the country including through “the possible implementation of the procedures provided for in Article 4 of the 25th Amendment, if appropriate.” The amendment allows for the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet to declare a president unfit for office, and the vice president then becomes acting president.
The cables were an extraordinary protest against a sitting U.S. president by American diplomats, who have long complained that the Trump administration has ignored and diminished their role and expertise. The dissent channel is normally used to oppose specific foreign policy decisions. The two most recent cables appear to be unprecedented in their scope and characterization of the president as a danger to the country.
The cables also reflect anger at the response to the riot by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, a loyal Trump ally.[/quote]
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real-human
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Benganzi had less americans die and there were years of right wing investigations by the senate and house. years...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjRXO72v1s
Must-See New Video Shows Capitol Riot Was Way Worse Than We Thought | All In | MSNBC
| Quote: | | Chris Hayes: “It is entirely possible that there were people in that crowd, looking to apprehend, possibly harm, and possibly murder the leaders of the political class that the President, and people like Mo Brooks, and even to a certain extent Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley, have told them have betrayed them." Aired on 1/8/2021. |
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isobars
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| Do you clowns not realize how meaningless yet another 1 or 100 impeachments is if the House has a sufficient percentage of Dems and RINOS to pass yet another impeachment every week? Do you not realize that intelligent voters on either side of each election will quickly -- let's say by 2022 -- get sick and tired of their elected representatives the public will get when the Congress gets even LESS accomplished because their leftard majority is completely devoted to a senseless vendetta rather than passing and funding laws? |
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real-human
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| isobars wrote: | | Do you clowns not realize how meaningless yet another 1 or 100 impeachments is if the House has a sufficient percentage of Dems and RINOS to pass yet another impeachment every week? Do you not realize that intelligent voters on either side of each election will quickly -- let's say by 2022 -- get sick and tired of their elected representatives the public will get when the Congress gets even LESS accomplished because their leftard majority is completely devoted to a senseless vendetta rather than passing and funding laws? |
and with your hate....
that is exactly why the dems should in a week nominate 50 ultra liberal dems to the supreme court. and next time nominate every liberal american to the supreme court if the haters like you take control and nominate 100 ultra partisan right wingers at some point. again it is a lifetime appointment,
So once we have all dems in the entire USA on the supreme court well as we know there are significantly more dems in the USA than right wingers, remember you right wingers will not be able to get jerrymandering concept in this as all dems are eligible as there is no rule you have to be registered by the way right wingers suppress the vote. or the way seanate numbers are not representing americans..
Time to take america back for which she stands representation of all americans and democracy of majority rules vs the fraud by the right wingers.
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wsurfer
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| isobars wrote: | | Do you clowns not realize how meaningless yet another 1 or 100 impeachments is if the House has a sufficient percentage of Dems and RINOS to pass yet another impeachment every week? Do you not realize that intelligent voters on either side of each election will quickly -- let's say by 2022 -- get sick and tired of their elected representatives the public will get when the Congress gets even LESS accomplished because their leftard majority is completely devoted to a senseless vendetta rather than passing and funding laws? |
Who cares as long a Trump is NOT a part of it.
Trumpism will eventually be realized for what it is.
Shouldn't you be living down in The Villages by now with other like minded people? |
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mac
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| isobars wrote: | | Do you clowns not realize how meaningless yet another 1 or 100 impeachments is if the House has a sufficient percentage of Dems and RINOS to pass yet another impeachment every week? Do you not realize that intelligent voters on either side of each election will quickly -- let's say by 2022 -- get sick and tired of their elected representatives the public will get when the Congress gets even LESS accomplished because their leftard majority is completely devoted to a senseless vendetta rather than passing and funding laws? |
Is there no crime where you clowns will say enough? How many dead does it take? |
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