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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now what I’ve found to really interest me is the OP has been a member since 2015, and this the very first post.
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anna1



Joined: 06 Oct 2015
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great forum! Thanks, everyone, for all this feedback. It seems like the takeaway is that I should take a lesson and keep working at it. The rigging on the windsup seems super simple and I followed the rigging video, but it's possible I have something wrong. I will keep fiddling to see if adjustments on the down haul or up haul make a difference. Thanks again.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, where are you sailing and what was the average wind conditions?
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anna1



Joined: 06 Oct 2015
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where are you sailing and what was the average wind conditions?


@swchandler - I'm sailing on a shallow bay in Long Island. I've been trying different types of wind between 8-15mph.
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isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anna1 wrote:
I'm sailing on a shallow bay in Long Island. I've been trying different types of wind between 8-15mph.

That explains a lot. You may as well be using a postage stamp, as a 4.8 is for winds averaging in the mid to upper 20s --- i.e., winds 5 to 10 times as powerful as your 8-15 mph (averages, I presume). That's why you have to hold it up, rather than the other way around. You don't need (and shouldn't expect) to go blasting about like everybody else, but you do need more hamsters on your wheel to develop a feel for anything. Sounds like time for a L.I. swap meet, a bigger sail, and some pro lessons. (Until you find the latter, there are many good instructional videos available.)

Mike \m/
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ctuna



Joined: 27 Jun 1995
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Location: Santa Cruz Ca

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

11'6" Seems like an oil tanker in terms of being able to turn it.
Depending on your weight a modern setup in the 150 to 175 liter range
would provide enough flotation for even a 200 pound person.
Length of around 9 ft.
Rigging and the sail type will have considerable effect.
Recommend anybody that want to stick with Windsurfing
buy Trickionairy 3 .
Depending on where you live you should be able to find some almost
free Masts and Sails .

I mean there is such a thing as 2 light a wind.
Pictures of what you have and how you are rigging it would help.
Rigging itself is and art . If the manufacturer provided good instructions
it doesn't have to be.

You might want to go over to Lakes Bay NJ and take your gear with you.
The talk to J Karabaz at Extreme Windsurfing to get some pointer on
how to rig and maybe some Lessons.

Don't know how far that is but he has a shop that has been there
for decades and it's a noted as the best Water Sports shop in the area.

https://www.extremewindsurfing.com/
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windswell



Joined: 20 May 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:51 am    Post subject: Mast Base pressure and lessons Reply with quote

As Isobar said, a lesson or two would rocket you ahead of just trying it yourself.
Since you're on a long-board, advice from a long-board sailor would help more than short-boarders. In either case, you may be inadvertently actually making it harder by teaching yourself, using the wrong stance, wrong boom height, etc.
A very common error in underpowered, long-board sailing is to sail with the boom much too low. This results in a wobbly, hold-up-the-sail condition.
Try raising your boom to shoulder height or higher when your're standing next to the mast base. With the boom higher,
you're mast will be more upright catching more wind,
you'll transfer some of your weight to the mast base by hanging a little on the boom,
you'll be able to step around on the board without full body weight.
Search on this forum and internet for Mast Base Pressure .
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capetonian



Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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Location: Florida

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lesson from a good instructor will save you YEARS of frustration.
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ABKTomL



Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy Brandt, one of the best instructor in the US, is giving a few one day clinics on Long Island. Consider one of them.

https://www.abkboardsports.com/camps
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anna1



Joined: 06 Oct 2015
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ABKTomL wrote:
Andy Brandt, one of the best instructor in the US, is giving a few one day clinics on Long Island. Consider one of them.

https://www.abkboardsports.com/camps



Thank you so much! This is close to me. Will definitely check it out!
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