Crissy sailing restrictions / resolution

Riptide · Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 411

Crissy Field Sailing Message from National park service community liaison. "I have checked in with everyone and we understand there may continue to be confusion out there about all the jurisdictions and overlapping SIP guidance.

We trust that everyone (visitors and USPP officers alike) all have the same goals in mind: doing our best to flatten the curve. We appreciate that in practice we all need to know what the rules are so we can be on the same page.

Your summary of what happened below is not how I, nor the folks I consulted, understand it. Specifically, “unless they walk or bike in from living nearby” is not a consideration that we have heard so far with regards to San Francisco.

All USPP officers and NPS rangers would be writing violations surrounding closures (links to lists of areas below.) Currently there is not any enforcement mechanism with regards to only folks living near-by entering the parks.

The National Park Service guidance for Golden Gate National Recreation Area remains the same: park areas are mostly open, with parking lots and some roads closed. Specific guidance for areas can be found here:

https://www.nps.gov/goga/planyourvisit/temporary-facilities-closure-advisory.htm

Our neighbor, the Presidio Trust, has their own list of closures, found here:

https://www.presidio.gov/coronavirus

San Francisco shelter in place orders can be found here:

https://sf.gov/stay-home-except-essential-needs

Please continue to monitor these websites into the next week as things may change with new Shelter in Place orders expected to follow after these expire (around 5/4/20.) Both park management agencies will be reviewing and making the best decisions for each of their management areas in consultation with surrounding jurisdictions."

This response above was from SFBA inquiry about last Monday.
See here: While parked at the palace of fine arts, a park police officer told them through a loudspeaker that they cannot go to crissy to recreate unless they walk or bike in from living nearby, and that starting tomorrow park police officers will be issuing warnings, and that after that they will be issuing $1,000 tickets that require a court appearance to get resolved.

One officer did also come over and speak personally with a few people, and she said that NPS will be enforcing the mandate of the City.

Everyone we know wants to be in compliance with the SIP and most are taking great care to maintain social distancing when they come to Crissy. People were definitely confused and upset by what occurred today.

As far as everyone knows as of today, SF did not write it into the health orders that people are prohibited from driving to a different neighborhood to exercise (as compared to San Mateo). SF has an FAQ that was updated on April 24. It says people can go to parks or open spaces that have not otherwise been shut down, so long as they abide by social distancing.

Are you able to find out what is happening with NPS threats of enforcement - and what exactly are they enforcing - or let me know if I should reach out to anyone else?

U2U2U2 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:24 pm Post subject:

I can’t find any words to address this

Riptide · Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 411

SFBA is seeking clarification from park service. This was posted based on one park police officer onsite issuing verbal warnings on loud speaker.

U2U2U2 · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:48 pm Post subject:

Does this men it’s hearsay

Riptide · Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 411

OK folks, I feel like a kid stuck in the principles office while all the other kids got to play at recess. I deleted the SFBA post about crissy restrictions because the info was only from just one park police officer, who called out many on the load speaker yesterday and in person warning us of being ticketed for driving to parking at the palace of fine arts and that only walking or bicycles were allowed. The police women said enforcement would start today. No info as of yet on our inquiry for clarification from the NPS. This police officer says the ticket requires a federal court appearance for violation of the heath ordinance.Today as far as I know, none was ticketed nor harassed parking at the palace of fine arts. But those that were warned stayed away today. Those there today either were not aware or flaunted the risk of a serious ticket. I am very upset about the situation.

U2U2U2 · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:29 am Post subject:

It’s easy stay home

rigatoni · Joined: 25 Feb 1999 Posts: 498

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer

Question: can someone walk onto the beach in a wetsuit, carrying windsurf gear, and then proceed into the water to windsurf?

rigatoni · Joined: 25 Feb 1999 Posts: 498

Boggsman1,

We've been doing just that for the last month. We are getting conflicting messages from GGNRA based on the message from an individual law enforcement official the other day. Another cop yesterday said no problem. We have an email in to our contacts at GGNRA for clarification.

I would strongly discourage parking in the area up by Sports Basement. There are no parking signs all over the place up there and I think all the cars parked illegally up there was what triggered this particular cop.

I would also strongly recommend that people try to be smart about accessing the water. Keep 6 feet from others and be very sensitive about conditions. Right now, sailing up to the bridge in marginal conditions should be left to those who have the skill and knowledge to get back.

FYI-The wind has been fantastic for over a week and a half.

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer

Thanks ... I have friends who have been sailing. But, I have not--and I know its been a good week of wind.