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Starboard's wave boards too darn heavy!
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
Bottomline, in my view, the "no nose" movement was hardly the negative fad that you tried to present so disdainfully.

Disdain? There you go fabricating motives again. I reported facts (the trend began to reverse just 2-3 years after its early '90s inauguration, beginning with Roberts in 1995). I reported published opinions from Robby Naish and Ed Angulo. I cited and referred readers to very lengthy and often measurable and objective analyses in Boards magazine. I referred to other magazines' less technical but widespread formal test results.

Jesus, guy, this horse is long dead. Let it R.I.P.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New leak. Appears to come from the bar up front inside the mast track.
I just don't get it... How is it possible to develop so many leaks?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got a lemon.
Buy new board.
I have at least 4 Starboards and 10 Cobra boards and all are fine.
6 of my 85 liter boards weigh less than 15 lbs. with 3 or 4 straps.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a guy come ashore on a warm sunny day and set his brand spanking new board on the ground after its maiden session. There were dozens of obvious leaks all over the board.

Saw another board, different brand, come ashore with the entire seam, from nose to tail, leaking.

I think I recall the brands, but it was so long ago that's not important.

The same problem was common on yet another unnamed brand widely noted for leaky, spongy decks after a very short time.

You know what they say: It Happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monday, Friday, vacation getaway, and screw the boss days.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rode my 82L quad with 17 twins from the kode wave. Marginal winds, felt pretty reactive (pop) and quick to plane. Don't remember getting so much performance out of it? Weight around 16lbs with heavy straps.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lately, it felt a bit heavier again (either that or I'm getting weaker!).

Opened up the tail, a couple of drops of water came out, let it in the sun and quickly no moisture was present (paper towel check).

Now, no matter how long I leave it out in the sun, it won't drop a single gram. The board is around 16.5lb or 7.5kg. Specs show 6.6kg.

1. Is it possible that moisture is still trapped inside after being in the sun for so many days (even had it in the bag but it burns the finish).
2. Do you advise drilling holes around suspected areas (where repairs where done back then)?
3. I realize that the vacuum pump is best but wouldn't the sun works just as well just taking longer? (we have lots of sun here )
4. I'm done with the board and looking for a replacement around 86-90L (Tabou Pocket, RRD Wave Cult, ...)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spec is NO straps, screws, or pads
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once moisture gets into a board, a) it cannot be fully extracted, b) heat is its worst enemy, and c) time comes in a close second.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I probably suggested this last time, but you can do the caveman centrifuge thing.

Drill a hole in the tail (clear into the core)

open the vent plug

grab the board by the nose (you may want to put a rope around the board so you don't kill someone if the board breaks free of your grip)

Spin around like you used to when you were 2 years old and hold the board out at arms length, nose to you, tail to the wind (yuk yuk).

If you do this until you fall over a few times, it should force a lot of
the water into (and even out of) the tail.

That technique worked pretty well on my Progressive Composites which went from about 13 lbs, to about 23 lbs, and back to about 14lbs. That board would not stay water tight. I can't tolerate
rec gear that is a nuisance though, and I eventually threw that
board away with a lot less consideration than you've given
the Starboard.

Also, like dllee says, that board is probably within spec (barely)
but if it's weight keeps bugging you, just cut that baby in half
and put it in the nearest dumpster.

-Craig
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