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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAS wrote:
I have to agree with Techno on this one.

The 2020 census reported 44,930 African Americans in SF. Not all of these people would qualify for the $5 million since they are proposing this with certain requirement for length of residency in SF during certain years.

Let’s say just 22,000 people get the $5 million. That adds up to $110 billion.

The SF budget in 2022 was $14 billion. So, these reparations would the same as about 8 years of the SF budget.

I was born in LA and spent over 30 years living in CA, including 10 years in SF. I like California, but this proposal is definitely nutty.


That's OK. All the taxpayers are moving to Texas.
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAS wrote:
I have to agree with Techno on this one.

The 2020 census reported 44,930 African Americans in SF. Not all of these people would qualify for the $5 million since they are proposing this with certain requirement for length of residency in SF during certain years.

Let’s say just 22,000 people get the $5 million. That adds up to $110 billion.

The SF budget in 2022 was $14 billion. So, these reparations would the same as about 8 years of the SF budget.

I was born in LA and spent over 30 years living in CA, including 10 years in SF. I like California, but this proposal is definitely nutty.


This is the typical thing that gets Techno all wet. There are, no doubt, lingering impacts from slavery and racism. Folks who couldn’t buy homes and accumulate wealth because of red-lining. Denied jobs because of their race. But documenting and providing some compensation for those things is nearly impossible. The administrative structure and relief grant applications would be staggering. More than that, there aren’t the votes. Pretty much anywhere, including California. But it lets Techno get his daily jolt of adrenaline.
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SAS



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
SAS wrote:
I have to agree with Techno on this one.

The 2020 census reported 44,930 African Americans in SF. Not all of these people would qualify for the $5 million since they are proposing this with certain requirement for length of residency in SF during certain years.

Let’s say just 22,000 people get the $5 million. That adds up to $110 billion.

The SF budget in 2022 was $14 billion. So, these reparations would the same as about 8 years of the SF budget.

I was born in LA and spent over 30 years living in CA, including 10 years in SF. I like California, but this proposal is definitely nutty.


That's OK. All the taxpayers are moving to Texas.



So are you moving to TX?
You could be HoustonGuru or ElPasoGuru. Or are you not a taxpayer in CA?
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techno900



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac said:
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But documenting and providing some compensation for those things is nearly impossible. The administrative structure and relief grant applications would be staggering. More than that, there aren’t the votes. Pretty much anywhere, including California. But it lets Techno get his daily jolt of adrenaline.


Exactly, that's why it's so nutty. But California will always lead the nation in crazy, politically motivated, nutty ideas.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
SAS wrote:
I have to agree with Techno on this one.

The 2020 census reported 44,930 African Americans in SF. Not all of these people would qualify for the $5 million since they are proposing this with certain requirement for length of residency in SF during certain years.

Let’s say just 22,000 people get the $5 million. That adds up to $110 billion.

The SF budget in 2022 was $14 billion. So, these reparations would the same as about 8 years of the SF budget.

I was born in LA and spent over 30 years living in CA, including 10 years in SF. I like California, but this proposal is definitely nutty.


That's OK. All the taxpayers are moving to Texas.


Steve- o , where did you move to ?
Is it beautiful sunny Houston?
Maybe, the scenic byways of Fort Worth?
In any event, I can't imagine its nicer than the sandy beaches of Malibu...
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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
Mac said:
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But documenting and providing some compensation for those things is nearly impossible. The administrative structure and relief grant applications would be staggering. More than that, there aren’t the votes. Pretty much anywhere, including California. But it lets Techno get his daily jolt of adrenaline.


Exactly, that's why it's so nutty. But California will always lead the nation in crazy, politically motivated, nutty ideas.


Abortion ban at conception. Book banning in Florida. Stolen election fairy tales believed by the majority of conservatives. Insurrections encouraged by Trump. Techno doesn't get out much; the Republican party is nuttier than the California almond harvest.

California is struggling to figure out a way to compensate women who they sterilized, a rather recent event. But Techno only trolls to find confirmation bias and his daily dose of adrenaline.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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California's COVID authoritarianism is only just beginning
Story by Zachary Faria • Yesterday 4:57 PM

COVID authoritarianism extends far beyond the lockdowns that ruined the lives of millions. And Democrats are proving it in California.

California passed a law that punished doctors for spreading “misinformation or disinformation” about COVID-19. “Misinformation” is defined as “false information that is contradicted by contemporary scientific consensus contrary to the standard of care.” The “contemporary scientific consensus” is, of course, to be determined by Democrats at a later date. The state’s deputy attorney general told a judge that it cannot be defined at this time.

As Senior Judge William Shubb said during a hearing on the law, the definition of misinformation is “nonsense.” As for “contemporary scientific consensus,” the pandemic proved that the "contemporary scientific consensus" was often wrong. The consensus on the efficacy of masks, school closures, mask mandates, and vaccines preventing the transmission of the virus have all been wrong at one point or another, among other issues during the pandemic.

In other words, the state of California wants to implement a vague standard of punishment for doctors who do not “trust the Science” even as the science is constantly changing. Never mind that challenging the scientific consensus is how breakthroughs are achieved and how people become better informed. Galileo challenged the scientific consensus — do they aim to emulate his persecutors?

If this law is allowed to stand, it will not stop with COVID, either. The state will crack down on doctors and mental health professionals who defy the “contemporary scientific consensus” that children suffering from gender dysphoria should be irreversibly surgically mutilated and pushed into hormone replacement therapy.

If the state can find a profession to punish for questioning the “contemporary scientific consensus” about climate change, it will likely extend its censorship to its industry as well. California experiences regular rolling blackouts as it rejects nuclear energy, which is rather embarrassing to the idiots who run the state. It is far more convenient to silence dissident voices speaking up for nuclear — this law would provide a precedent and a basis for doing just such a thing.

The state’s COVID disinformation law is an assault on free speech that is disgraceful on its own. All those who supported it should be thrown out of public office. But if the law stands, it would open the floodgates for California Democrats to usher in even more censorship of anyone who defies their political interpretation of science.

COVID encouraged politicians and bureaucrats to push for more and more authoritarianism. It didn’t end when schools and businesses reopened.


From the Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/californias-covid-authoritarianism-is-only-just-beginning?utm_source=msn&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=msn_feed
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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh look, let's read a hard right source for your daily dose of adrenaline.

Meanwhile, research shows that they latest booster reduces infections by 50%. So called conservatives don't understand the distinction between freedom and license.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another fresh pantload. It starts with Covid19, but then lathers in fearful fantasies of gender dysphoria and climate change to beat the bushes. All of this driven by those damn California Democrats against free speech and advocating censorship.

I have to wonder where the Washington Examiner and other right wing media are on Florida Gov. Desantis' censorship of elective advanced placement Black Studies programs in Florida's schools.

techno900, maybe you can help us out with routing out and highlighting Republican-style censorship and anti-free speech governance in red states today. You know, that wicked "wokeness" coming from the radical right.
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MikeLaRonde



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
From the Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/californias-covid-authoritarianism-is-only-just-beginning?utm_source=msn&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=msn_feed

LOL .. not so fast, nutjobs in power of CA! Zoinks, how could the "Examiner" possibly have overlooked this pesky related story, from the same day (yesterday):

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/federal-judge-blocks-law-california-covid-misinformation/?itm_term=home

This is awesome news for humanity. For WEF alum Grewsome and Co, not so much... just think of the precedent being set, especially considering from where this happened ...

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no evidence that ‘scientific consensus’ has any established technical meaning,” and that the law provides “no clarity” on the meaning of the word “misinformation.” .. Senior U.S. District Judge William Shubb

.. paving the way for the elephant in the room to be finally/fully exposed: That it is actually the US health authorities and media giants who are engaged in spreading "misinformation"! Twisted Evil
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