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mat-ty
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| mac wrote: | | No surprise. NW interprets the US abstention as anti semitic. Doesn't bother to check either facts or spelling. |
Unlike you Mac we put our faith in people much smarter and knowledgeable than you. I have a choice , Mac the rabid san fran fruit cake or Dershowitz, Krauthammer and countless others. Sorry you lose.
Now go spin around your aluminum pole and have a happy Festivus.... |
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mac
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| Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Now I know that Republicans love Netanyahu because he pissed in Obama's ear. As folks with only a distant relationship with facts and human relationships, they seem surprised that he has no reservoir of good will with Obama when it comes to a UN resolution. The Bibi lovers also have a high tolerance for scandal--as long as a strong man is involved:
| Quote: | Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his wife Sara have been entangled in numerous scandals, some deemed ethically dubious and others borderline illegal, during the Israeli leader's political career. Yet, none has contributed to Netanyahu's political downfall, indicating that the public is very forgiving of or indiferrent to such antics.
Here's a rundown of the scandals that have touched Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his wife, Sara, during his political career (in descending chronological order):
1) Bottle-gate: Sara Netanyahu allegedly kept thousands of shekels from deposits on empty bottles that were returned, on her orders, to Jerusalem supermarkets over several years, even though the bottle deposits were state property.
2) Pig-gate and shrimp-gate: The ultra-Orthodox Jewish press last year decried Netanyahu's public eating behavior while in the United States. First he ate veal in a "pig restaurant" together with Sheldon Adelson in September. Undaunted, he met with donors at a seafood restaurant shortly thereafter.
3) Bibi-Tours: A draft report by the state comptroller says that when Netanyahu headed Israel's treasury, "organizations and private individuals with various links to the finance minister and/or the Israeli economy funded [his] trips abroad.” The draft was drawn up two years ago and has not been released but was seen by a Channel 10 reporter, Raviv Drucker.
4) Sara and her housekeepers: In March 2014, the Netanyahus' former house manager, Mani Naftali, who was previously personal bodyguard to Sara and the couple's two boys, filed a suit demanding 1 million shekels of compensation for what it said was abusive conduct by Sara. The complaint alleged humiliations, racist remarks and angry fits to which he was subjected, and it said the Netanyahus didn't pay him all that he was owed for his work.
5) The Expensive In-Flight Bed: In 2013, the Netanyahus attended Margaret Thatcher's funeral. For a five-hour flight to London on El Al, the prime minister's office was charged an extra 500,000 shekels to create a sleeping suite and accommodate a double bed. It was also reported that the prime minister's three residences had cost the public $1 million in 2012, well over budget.
6) The ice cream affair: In February 2013, Haaretz reported, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu canceled a state-financed contract worth 10,000 shekels a year for ice cream purchases at his official residence. The Prime Minister’s Office said the deal was "a master contract meant to accommodate guests at the prime minister's official residence, and did not necessarily mean the entire sum would be spent."
7) An adviser and sexual harassment: Natan Eshel, a former chief of staff for Netanyahu, confessed to photographing an employee of the Prime Minister's bureau "improperly" in 2012 and was subsequently forced to resign, Haaretz reported.
 The (disgruntled) help: In 2010, Lillian Peretz filed a lawsuit against Sara Netanyahu, demanding 300,000 shekels of compensation for, among other things, unpaid wages. The suit said Sara screamed at Peretz and gave her work that she could not complete. Haaretz reported that the suit said that Sara demanded that the housekeeper return to the couple's home on the eve of Passover to do the family's laundry and then refused to pay additional compensation. Peretz received backing from Naomi Igos, who worked for Sara Netanyahu during her husband's first term as prime minister in the 1990s.
"When I read the report on Friday [about Peretz's suit], it took me back 12 years," Igos said. "The whole way in which [Mrs. Netanyahu] behaved, the yelling, the wild behavior, the phone calls at night - [and even though I am] a religious person, I was supposed to be available by phone on Shabbat."
A month later, another ex-housekeeper sued Sara Netanyahu for 40,000 shekels for allegedly refusing to grant her the compensation she deserved when she concluded her employment. She settled for 20,000 shekels.
9) Contractor Case: In 1999, the attorney general decided against a police recommendation to file charges against Netanyahu. Reports said that the police suspected Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu conspired with a government contractor in a kickback scheme.
10) Bar-On Hebron: Netanyahu named Roni Bar-On attorney general in 1997. Haaretz reported that the move was criticized because Bar-On was relatively inexperienced for the job. But the paper also reported allegations of a deal: that Aryeh Deri had backed Bar-On for the job in return for favorable treatment of the corruption charges that the Shas politician was facing. Another part of the alleged deal, Haaretz reported, was that Shas was to vote in favor of the controversial Hebron accord to help Netanyahu. Bar-On resigned as attorney general after a day in the post. Attorney General Elyakim Rubinstein ultimately filed no charges against any of the figures in the matter.
11) Bibi-gate: Netanyahu's first major scandal of his political career emerged in 1993, when he admitted on television to having an extramarital affair with Ruth Bar, a media adviser he had hired to help him in 1992's Likud party primary. Netanyahu asserted that an anonymous person had called Sara and threatened that a secret videotape portraying Netanyahu in compromising sexual positions with another woman would be released if he did not withdraw his candidacy for the Likud leadership. The affair blew over, and Netanyahu won the election. It was not Netanyahu's first extramarital affair. He had started an affair during his first marriage to Miriam Weizman with Fleur Cates, a British woman he met while in the United States, who became his second wife.
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read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.640386
On substance, there are now 350,000 residents of settlements in the West Bank. You can see a map in this link: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/12/world/middleeast/netanyahu-west-bank-settlements-israel-election.html?_r=0
From that article:
| Quote: | First elected in 1996 on a promise to reverse a four-year freeze on settlement expansion in all but a few areas, Mr. Netanyahu endorsed the concept of two states for two peoples upon regaining Israel’s top job in 2009, saying in his famous Bar Ilan speech: “We have no intention of building new settlements or of expropriating additional land for existing settlements.”
Mr. Netanyahu now explains his building initiatives as an inevitable accommodation to natural growth and says they have not materially affected the map, only added, as he put it, “a few houses in existing communities.” He rebuts any suggestion that settlements are the core of the conflict, noting that Arabs and Jews were fighting in this land long before they existed. |
Now for you Reagan lovers, let me give you the opening of Samantha Powers' speech at the UN:
| Quote: | Let me begin with a quote: “The United States will not support the use of any additional land for the purpose of settlements during the transitional period. Indeed, the immediate adoption of a settlement freeze by Israel, more than any other action, could create the confidence needed for wider participation in these talks. Further settlement activity is in no way necessary for the security of Israel and only diminishes the confidence of the Arabs that a final outcome can be freely and fairly negotiated.”This was said in 1982 by President Ronald Reagan. He was speaking about a new proposal that he was launching to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. While ultimately, of course, President Reagan’s proposal was not realized, his words are still illuminating in at least two respects.
First, because they underscore the United States’ deep and long-standing commitment to achieving a comprehensive and lasting peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. That has been the policy of every administration, Republican and Democrat, since before President Reagan and all the way through to the present day.
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read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.761017
Finally, for those who talk about lack of support for Israel, here are some pesky facts:
| Quote: | The deal, known as a memorandum of understanding, or MOU, calls for at least $3.8 billion a year in aid, up from $3.1 billion annually under the current pact, which expires in 2018, officials say. Netanyahu had originally sought upwards of $4.5 billion a year.
The new package for the first time will incorporate money for Israeli missile defense, which until now has been funded ad hoc by Congress. U.S. lawmakers have in recent years given Israel up to $600 million in annual discretionary funds for this purpose.
Officials say Israel has agreed not to lobby Congress for additional missile defense funds during the life of the new MOU, a pledge expected to be made in a side letter or annex to the agreement. But the wording is likely to be flexible enough to allow exceptions in case of a war or other major crisis.
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From Fortune. In fact, Obama has given Israel more money than anyone else--and Bibi the snake has gone around Obama to Congress to wheedle for more. |
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nw30
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| Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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You're on a very liberal roll today mac, are you trying to recruit some new members?
This is a very tough sell, as it should be. |
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mac
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| Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| So NW--do you love Bibi because he cheats and steals, or is it the fact that he is so right wing that all crimes are forgiven? |
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nw30
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You should design poll questions, that's not even a question, it's your opinion with a question mark added to it.
Okay mac, which do you prefer, terrorist organizations or Jews? |
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mac
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| Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Steals it is then. |
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mat-ty
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| Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| nw30 wrote: | You should design poll questions, that's not even a question, it's your opinion with a question mark added to it.
Okay mac, which do you prefer, terrorist organizations or Jews? |
No, Mac prefers terrorist with a license to kill from the UN. This idiotic maneuver from the obama scum team will only rip the scabs of decade old wounds and set the process back to the stone age. |
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MalibuGuru
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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One can only imagine how peaceful the world would be today if Muhammad had never been born.
Netanyahu is correct about Obama. This is the biggest stab in the back to a peaceful democracy and nation with the largest population of Nobel Laureates. Obama is a disgusting pig. |
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mat-ty
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | One can only imagine how peaceful the world would be today if Muhammad had never been born.
Netanyahu is correct about Obama. This is the biggest stab in the back to a peaceful democracy and nation with the largest population of Nobel Laureates. Obama is a disgusting pig. |
I'll say it again.....CLOSET MUSLIM |
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swchandler
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I love the fact Netanyahu is upset and all twisted up in frustration. Believe me, he earned it. |
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