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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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ma-ty, pretty soon you're going to have to get beyond blaming President Obama.
But, predictably, you didn't answer my question about Russia and Iran efforts. Why can't you step up? |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17757 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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mat-ty wrote: | swchandler wrote: | Again mat-ty, where is your blame and damnation for Russia and Iran for what has happened in Syria? Should we have gone to war against Russia and Iran because of the devastation they have caused in Syria?
Lastly, what do you think about Trump foolishly casting Putin as basically a strong leader that we should be doing more business with? |
I'm focused on what American leadership does not other countries that I have no say or control over. Obama sat back and DID NOTHING while isis or as the asshole calls them isil grew to it's current state. |
Ignorance and bigotry in one. Wrong in every detail. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20936
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Obama just shitcanned the last pretense and means of tracking the immigrant group responsible for virtually all the 28,000 terrorist attacks since 9/11. Trump has vowed to vet that group as they enter.
Who values YOUR life more than political correctness, the Democrats or the Republicans?
What does it TAKE for you lefties to wake the hell up?
(White Supremacy ... REALLY? Are you that stupid?) |
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mat-ty
Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | Obama just shitcanned the last pretense and means of tracking the immigrant group responsible for virtually all the 28,000 terrorist attacks since 9/11. Trump has vowed to vet that group as they enter.
Who values YOUR life more than political correctness, the Democrats or the Republicans?
What does it TAKE for you lefties to wake the hell up?
(White Supremacy ... REALLY? Are you that stupid?) |
By the time the moron lefties figure it out it will be to late. Just ask the Germans. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I guess destroying the democrat party wasn't good enough. |
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mrgybe
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5181
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Boggsy, I know that you greatly admire President Obama but, if you didn't read this WSJ opinion piece, I suggest you do so to round out your understanding of this man.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/obamas-midnight-regulation-express-1482451192
For 7 years and 11 months we have been told that he is not indecisive........no, not at all. His decisions may seem slow, but, in fact, that slow pace reflects thoughtful and careful consideration. Contrast that with the blizzard of last minute actions he is taking to poison the well for his successor, including abandoning Israel at the UN. He is acting like a petulant child. I still have serious doubts about Trump, but your hero cannot be gone soon enough. |
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mat-ty
Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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The closet Muslim strikes again. I hope all the Jewish people that voted for Obama feel the shame they should for voting for this anti-semite fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaKt_IL5kz0
It's time to say goodbye to the UN. They are nothing but a bunch of liberal , globalist , retards. Shut it down!!
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17757 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Follow the money.
Quote: | Adelson had previously said that he would donate $100 million to support the Republican nominee, but he has since pulled back. CNN reports that he and his wife plan to spend a total of $45 million to help Republican campaigns, with about $5 million going towards Trump. Though that number is far off from his original pledge, it would still make him the largest donor of this election cycle. |
Make America--and the rest of the world--safe for casinos. Hope that nobody pays attention to the actual substance of the UN resolution which had to do with settlements. Hope that nobody notices that many of the settlements are on property of Palestinians. Hope that nobody actually has read the provision in the Constitution that noone can be deprived of their property without due process.
As expected, carry on. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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mac you are out there w/o many others supporting this anti-sematic move.
Not surprised though.
One last stab in the back before leaving, classy.
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Peace-hindering UN resolution that U.S. failed to veto leads Palestine to think it can bypass talks with Israel
12/23/16
It is now illegal for Jews to pray at the Western Wall, live in certain Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem or attend Hebrew University on Mt. Scopus.
All of these actions require Israelis to enter areas that were captured from Jordan during Israel's defensive war of 1967. According to the Security Council resolution that the U.S. did not veto, any area that was not part of Israel before June of 1967 is now illegally occupied.
This is only one of the absurd results of this benighted resolution, which also encourages boycotts of Israeli products manufactured beyond the so-called Green Line, and pressures the International Criminal Court to prosecute Israeli officials. In addition, the resolution makes illegal Israel's security barrier, which has saved numerous lives.
But the most dangerous consequence of this resolution is that it makes peace much more difficult to achieve because it sends a false message to the Palestinians that they can achieve a state through the United Nations rather than through direct negotiations with Israel.
The Palestinian leadership has refused to accept Prime Minister Netanyahu's offer to negotiate without preconditions, and this refusal has now been rewarded. The resolution neglects to mention that Israel offered the Palestinians a state, an end to the occupation and settlements, and peace in 2000 - 2001 as well as in 2008, but the Palestinian leadership did not accept either of these offers. They will continue in this rejectionist mode, fortified by this one sided resolution.
Why then did President Obama, in his parting days, tie the hands of his successor? He was certainly not reflecting the will of the people or of congress. Both the Senate and the House are strongly opposed to this resolution, as are many people within the Obama administration.
Nor is this an issue on which Israelis are divided. There is no Israeli leader who supports this resolution
President Obama would never have allowed it to go forward before the recent presidential election, but now that he has nothing at stake he can place his personal interests above those of the country, his party and peace. He may believe that this action (or inaction) will burnish his legacy, but he is wrong. It will only solidify his reputation as one of the worst foreign policy presidents in modern history. A president who bears significant responsibility for the tragedy of Syria, the empowerment of Russia and Iran, and the weakening of America's standing in the world.
There are many who believe that he allowed this resolution to be enacted as a way of getting even with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, but a president should never act on personal pique or on a desire to get even with those who he believes have crossed him.
This is a sad day for America, for Israel and for the prospects of peace in the Middle East. Congress can try to ameliorate the tragic effects of this resolution and untie the hands of the incoming President. It can and should enact legislation declaring that it is the policy of the United States that the only road to peace between Israel and the Palestinians is by direct negotiation and not through the U.N., and that this resolution does not represent the policy of the United States.
The legislation should also prohibit the expenditure, directly or indirectly, of any U.S. funds to implement this resolution.
President Obama would not sign such a law, but President Trump would likely do so. This legislation should be enacted by an overwhelming bipartisan vote, since Congressional Democrats and Republicans alike have expressed opposition to Obama's refusal to veto the resolution.
It is important that bipartisanship over Israel continue despite recent efforts to end it by turning the Democratic party against Israel.
Israel will survive this resolution as it has survived many other biased attacks. The real question is: Can the peace process survive? There is little doubt that this resolution has not contributed to peace, to the status of the U.N., to the reputation of President Obama or to basic decency.
Alan M. Dershowitz is professor emeritus at Harvard Law School
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/resolution-lets-palestine-bypass-israel-talks-article-1.2921964 |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17757 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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No surprise. NW interprets the US abstention as anti semitic. Doesn't bother to check either facts or spelling. |
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