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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17751 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:30 am Post subject: t |
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Completely wrong. Imagine the furor from conservatives if EPA had publicly embarrassed a Republican governor's callous disregard for public health--and exceeded their authority in so doing. Sometimes ignorance is intentional. |
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mrgybe
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5181
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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"The mission of EPA is to protect human health and the environment. EPA’s purpose is to ensure that all Americans are protected from significant risks to human health and the environment where they live, learn and work"
.........unless it exceeds our authority, in which case we will sit on our hands for months, squabbling with other equally ineffective government bureaucrats, and watch children ingest toxic water. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17751 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:34 pm Post subject: te |
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In a nation ruled by law, as opposed to one ruled by the Tea Party, it is unethical as well as illegal to take an action that exceeds your authority.
In a closed mind, it is possible to try to shift the blame from a Governor who sought and obtained authority for such irresponsible actions as shifting the supply source for Flint water to those without authority to prevent it. It is what we expect from people who consider JUNK SCIENCE a credible source. People who are neither honest nor credible. |
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mrgybe
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Of course it helps to actually know the relevant law, and the whistleblower protections.........and to be more concerned about poisoning children than your own career. This from the EPA rule book.......
"The purpose of the EPA OIG (Inspector General) Hotline is to receive complaints of fraud, waste, or abuse in EPA programs and operations..........Abuse involves behavior that is deficient or improper when compared with behavior that a prudent person would consider reasonable and necessary business practice given the facts and circumstances. Upon receipt of a specific allegation of fraud, waste, abuse, or mismanagement, the OIG may take any one of the following actions:
- open an OIG investigation or audit;
- refer the matter to EPA management for appropriate review and action; or
- refer the allegation to another Federal agency, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation."
The Nuremberg Defense may satisfy lifelong government bureaucrats. Most rational people expect a great deal more. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17751 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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It does pay to know the law, and demonstrate some understanding of it rather than grasping at straws to justify ones biases and conflicts of interest. |
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boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9122 Location: at a computer
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Gents...if you go to redbull.tv, you can watch , LIVE , one of the best big wave contests in the world...it's awesome, and its 20 miles from where I'm currently sitting... |
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mrgybe
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Good save, Boggsy. He needed help. |
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boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9122 Location: at a computer
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Have you checked the site? its going OFFFFFFFFFFF right now. |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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boggsman1 wrote: | Have you checked the site? its going OFFFFFFFFFFF right now. |
Nice! Looks sailable to me. What would Davenport look like today? |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen it much better during other contests there, but hea, it beats politics. |
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