Pipe dream? Obamacare

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coboardhead said:

[coboardhead]

Techno

Take a look at CBO projections of future deficits and spending sometime. ALL of the future growth in spending relative to GDP is due to projected increases in healthcare costs. I have yet to see a tea party proposal that really addresses this.

The ACA, actually does. The CBO projects deficit reductions with the implementation of the ACA because costs will be reduced. We will see...but, the idea is to shift the burden of healthcare throughout the market rather than leave those that cannot obtain insurance to utilize government provided healthcare through emergency rooms or waiting until treatment becomes more complex.

You mentioned you would have done better without Medicare? You once mentioned that you should live well into your nineties with your family history. The numbers, simply, do not support this. The average upper middle class senior utilizes significantly more medical services than they contributed. The healthy elite, such as yourself, who live even longer, will really come out ahead.

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep97/w6013.html

[techno900]

coboardhead said:

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[keycocker]

Techno,
I was really happy to read Tea literature in those first days when they had no track record.
The Tea Party said they were a new bipartisan group who supports financial good sense.
Are they really a bipartisan group?
They said they would be free of lobbyist money, knowing they were taking money and orders from the Kochs
Now they accept cash from anybody.
Do you know of a single bill they ever introduced to help with the debt?
In a do nothing Congress they are the do absolutely nothing wing.

They did introduce a bill to halt the ACA, knowing that bill would have no effect in that way. Realizing it was a wasted effort, they introduced forty more identical waste of money bills to "halt" the ACA.

Did the shutdown which cost us billions and was never going to affect ACA funding help lead us anywhere?
The GOP says they are leading us toward fiscal responsibility if the Dems would get out of the way.
When that happened in the Bush years the GOP borrowed and spent, setting new records.

Could you give me some idea why the happy talk from the Teas has cost Americans so much money and produced absolutely no results?

Americans who do not listen to Talk have rejected Tea leadership because of the fiscal damage they did to us.
They reject the leadership of people like Cruz because he is deeply untruthful and the other Teas like Bachman because they are unsuited to lead intelligent people and have done nothing but damage our country.

Those who support them have gotten lost in the difference between the things they say, and five years of incompetent reality.

Why did they turned out to be bad government on steroids instead of leading us out of the wilderness? They were bought and paid for by lobbyists in the first days.

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[uwindsurf]

[mac]

This has to be one of the more chilling comments about the warping of reality fields:

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