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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: NY - Long Island Ocean-side Meters Reply with quote

iWS is trying to get a wind meter up at Gilgo Beach, NY. It's the one meter location that would be most useful to a number of NYC/Long Island windsurfers who like to sail the ocean.

There is not a single iWS station on the ocean on the entire length of Long Island.
The Plumb Beach meter is down all the time and is far from accurate. The Great South Bay meters are measuring a very different set of conditions and is less than useful to me.

I can't say that I know a ton of not-yet-subscribing Windsurfers that I could recruit for iWS using the "install-a-meter" program, but I know that as an existing member, I'd prefer if my own money were spent on a meter there. I also know that I am certainly not alone. Can we kick start this thing?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: NY - Long Island Ocean-side Meters Reply with quote

feuser wrote:
There is not a single iWS station on the ocean on the entire length of Long Island.



FYI The Shinnecock meter is on the ocean...it stands on the western jetty of the Inlet, about 100 yards from The Bowl. That meter is not run by iWindsurf (ie the data is available for free) but iWindsurf carries it.

It breaks often, though.

Here is the link: http://www.lishore.org/shinnecock/latest.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: NY - Long Island Ocean-side Meters Reply with quote

PeconicPuffin wrote:
feuser wrote:
There is not a single iWS station on the ocean on the entire length of Long Island.



FYI The Shinnecock meter is on the ocean...it stands on the western jetty of the Inlet, about 100 yards from The Bowl. That meter is not run by iWindsurf (ie the data is available for free) but iWindsurf carries it.

It breaks often, though.

Here is the link: http://www.lishore.org/shinnecock/latest.htm



... and it reads about 5-7 knots high most directions because it's about 40 feet up? Plus, it is about a 90 minute drive from where the mid-islanders and new yorkers sail.

Sorry, but I think the iWS investment into 100+ miles of LI shoreline is inadequate. I am thinking of pulling out, if there's no meter somewhere at Gilgo, Jones Beach or Robert Moses by the time of my next renewal.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank4 wrote:
how?


By showing here by means of discussion (and confirming later in a follow-up conversation) that the investment is warranted through existing subscribers.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: NY - Long Island Ocean-side Meters Reply with quote

feuser wrote:
PeconicPuffin wrote:
feuser wrote:
There is not a single iWS station on the ocean on the entire length of Long Island.



FYI The Shinnecock meter is on the ocean...it stands on the western jetty of the Inlet, about 100 yards from The Bowl. That meter is not run by iWindsurf (ie the data is available for free) but iWindsurf carries it.

It breaks often, though.

Here is the link: http://www.lishore.org/shinnecock/latest.htm



... and it reads about 5-7 knots high most directions because it's about 40 feet up? Plus, it is about a 90 minute drive from where the mid-islanders and new yorkers sail.

Sorry, but I think the iWS investment into 100+ miles of LI shoreline is inadequate. I am thinking of pulling out, if there's no meter somewhere at Gilgo, Jones Beach or Robert Moses by the time of my next renewal.


1. Shinnecock's meter readings are predictable and useful, depending on the direction and time of year. All that matters is if it tells us if we can sail and on what (for ocean sailing it needs to be holding at 20 for me (165lbs) to sail a 5.8-6.2).

2. I'm all for pulling out of iWindsurf if we can set up our own thing and service doesn't improve. The Shinnecock meter isn't iWindsurfs (there's public access as per the link I posted). Long Island is not well served at all. For that matter the Napeague meter is often grossly misleading.

3. What I think is particularly ridiculous on IWS's part is charging extra for their "wireless" site. Every information provider under the sun is setting up optimized pages with the interest of better serving (and their for better attracting and retaining) users...IWS charges.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Gilgo wind Reply with quote

I would love to see an Ocean side meter central Long island.
You have my vote Florian!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Gilgo wind Reply with quote

Mine too
drysuit2 wrote:
I would love to see an Ocean side meter central Long island.
You have my vote Florian!

Frank

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: Gilgo wind Reply with quote

PeconicPuffin wrote:
Mine too
drysuit2 wrote:
I would love to see an Ocean side meter central Long island.
You have my vote Florian!

Frank

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Perhaps iWS could at least incorporate this one http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KNYGILGO1 into their site.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well they've added some meters and forecasts that are of no use. How is it blowing in Central Park?

More muck...useless quantity vs. crucial quality

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