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the deplorables have been indicted by a grand jury, the second type that indicts...
ya it appears about 41 count indictment... trump in seems half of them, 19 of the deplorables..... so many deplorables... indicated.
rico.... hahahaha state crime which cannot be pardoned by presidents.
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rudy Sidney and eastman and so on,,, 19 of them,,, these convictions cannot be pardoned which we know the other deplorables were hoping for. IE not testifying against trump because if he won the election he could just fire the people in the justice department. and or pardon by trump or other right winger who just love their criminals.
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wow... notice the right wing in GA did not complain when Fanny Willis prosecuted teachers under the Rico act for taking money for was it grades or entry. The low lying players did not do the 5 years, just 3, but the top ones did more than the 5 years.
and gee which is more of a severe crime? trying to overthrow the government or getting paid off for a school. hmmm
trump keeps crying that she ran on locking her up. ohhh poor baby. He won on locking her up and begging Russia to break laws attacking an American running for president. and as it turns out he had Clinton investigated for how many years to lock her up. you right wingers are the biggest cry baby so call imaginary victims in the history of mankind.
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well gee wiz... Why not charge him, we have the special grand jury saying he should be.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-grand-jury-recommended-charges-against-sens-graham-perdue-loeffler/ar-AA1gr7O3?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=cff1df79e9674cb6814868b51f7facb5&ei=21
Special Grand Jury Recommended Charges Against Sens. Graham, Perdue, Loeffler
| Quote: | The special grand jury whose investigation served as the progenitor of Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’ later RICO indictments for 2020 election interference recommended charges against three Republican Senators – none of which were ultimately brought.
According to a copy of the special grand jury’s final report unsealed Friday morning, members of the panel wanted to bring charges in the “national effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election” against Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and former Sens. David Perdue (R-GA) and Kelly Loeffler (R-GA).
Attorney Cleta Mitchell, who stoked bogus concerns of voter fraud and was on Trump’s infamous Jan. 2 call with Brad Raffensperger, also was recommended for charges.
The recommendations from special grand jury members suggest an even broader basis for charges, encompassing not only Trump, his attorneys, and his most active associates, but even those who played more incidental but still consequential roles in the scheme to undo Biden’s 2020 victory.
Willis and the later regular grand jury did not ultimately bring charges against Mitchell, the senators, or several others whom a majorities of grand jurors recommended for indictment. Those include Michael Flynn and attorney Lin Wood, both among the most rabid spreaders of election fraud conspiracy theories. They also include all of the Georgia false electors; Willis only brought charges against three of them.
Vote totals for the proposed charges are included in the report.
For the senators, there was notable dissent among the grand jurors. One footnote said that one juror believed that Loeffler and Perdue should not be charged because their statements, “while pandering to their political base, do not give rise to their being guilty of criminal conspiracy.”
That doubt is reflected in the vote totals for all three senators, which played out as follows:
Sen. Kelly Loeffler (14 yes, 6 no, 1 abstain)
Sen. David Perdue (17 yes, 4 no, 0 abstain)
Sen. Lindsey Graham (13 yes, 7 no, 1 abstain)
For Trump and the overarching RICO charge, however, the votes were nearly unanimous: 20 yeses, 1 no. The same pattern applied to charging recommendations for the following people:
Rudy Giuliani
John Eastman
Ken Chesebro
Sidney Powell
Mark Meadows
Jenna Ellis
Jeff Clark
Lin Wood
Michael Flynn
Cleta Mitchell
Boris Epshteyn
Of those, Wood, Flynn, Mitchell, and Epshteyn were not charged.
Members of the special grand jury also voted to charge the entire slate of fake electors. After months more of investigation, Willis only opted to charge three of the fake electors, all of whom allegedly played roles in organizing the vote. But grand jurors voted overwhelmingly to charge the rest of the false slate, with 19 yeses and 2 nos for each.
On the fake electors recommendations, a footnote says that the two dissenting jurors disagreed because they believed the fake electors themselves were misled into taking an action that they understood as “their civic duty.”
The Fulton County special grand jury started its investigation in June 2022 and concluded in December 2022. The votes on the recommendations that appear in its final report took place at the conclusion of the jury’s service, in December.
After that, Willis spent months continuing the investigation as her office prepared for prosecution. Of the 38 people recommended for indictment, Willis eventually charged 18.
A 19th defendant, Trump 2020 campaign official Mike Roman, was indicted in the RICO case but did not appear in the final report of the special grand jury. |
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