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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

40 satellites lost...jeeze talk about karma!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

little elon is not in the pocket of putin. This article seems spot on, Elon for instance would not have known about the water issue for Crimea.

Putin must have conveyed he can take out all of elons sats and go after straining minerals and bankrupt Elon in a day.... All Putin needs to do is announce he is going to take those sats down and his stock will be ZERO in the morning.

Elon is a moron... Now Putin new billionaire Bootch.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/elon-musk-s-pro-russian-peace-deal-is-classic-putin-and-there-s-a-clue-of-the-russian-leader-s-role-fiona-hill-argues/ar-AA134mTZ?cvid=d050a13afc834f8aa73984dd245215b6&ocid=winp2sv1plustaskbarhover

Elon Musk's pro-Russian peace deal is 'classic Putin,' and there's a clue of the Russian leader's role, Fiona Hill argues


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Elon Musk's recent efforts to broker a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine have almost certainly been puppeteered by Vladimir Putin, according to top Russia expert Fiona Hill.

"Putin plays the egos of big men — gives them a sense that they can play a role. But in reality, they're just direct transmitters of messages from Vladimir Putin," Hill told Politico this week, noting that the Tesla billionaire has tipped his hand in an obvious display of Putin's influence.

Who is Alina Kabaeva, Vladimir Putin's long-rumored girlfriend?

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Who is Alina Kabaeva, Vladimir Putin's long-rumored girlfriend?
Alina Kabaeva, 39, is a retired rhythmic gymnast and former member of Russia's lower parliament.
She is rumored to be Vladimir Putin's longtime girlfriend, but the Kremlin has denied the claims.
Reports also say the two had a daughter in 2015.
Alina Kabaeva has earned notoriety as a decorated rhythmic gymnast, as a politician, and as a top executive of Russia's largest media company.

But no facet of the 39-year-old's life has put her in the international spotlight more than her long-rumored, never-confirmed relationship with Russian president Vladimir Putin, who celebrated his 70th birthday on Friday.

The Kremlin has put up a smoke screen in front of the alleged relationship, which dates back at least 14 years. In 2008, rumors began to circulate that Putin secretly divorced his wife to pursue a relationship with a gymnast almost half his age, according to The New York Times.

"I have always disliked those who, with their infected noses and erotic fantasies, break into other people's private affairs," Putin told reporters in 2008 when denying the rumors, according to The Times.

Still, the majority of the western order acknowledges Kabaeva's ties to Putin.

In August, seven months after Russia invaded Ukraine, the US Treasury Department joined the UK, Canada, and European Union in sanctioning Kabaeva for her "close relationship" to Putin.

Here's what we know about Kabaeva.

Earlier this month, Musk tweeted a proposed peace plan he suggested could end the war in Ukraine that parroted Russian demands and echoed Kremlin talking points.

Ian Bremmer, a prominent political analyst, later reported that Musk spoke privately with Putin before drafting his proposition — an allegation that Musk denied.

The SpaceX founder's first foray into the war came earlier this year when he began donating Starlink satellite internet terminals to Ukraine, providing a key source of communication for the country's forces amid the ongoing fight.

But Musk in recent weeks has hinted at a more sympathetic tilt toward Russia.

While it was his October 3 tweets that garnered buzz around the globe, Musk was publicly evoking Putin's desires even earlier.

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Hill cited Musk's September appearance at a conference in Aspen, during which he suggested a similar path forward through the war, encouraging Ukraine to "seek peace" by allowing Crimea — a territory which Russia annexed from Ukraine in 2014 — to be recognized as Russian.

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Musk also reportedly told attendees that the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions in Ukraine ought to be up for grabs. Russia annexed four occupied Ukrainian territories just days later, including the two mentioned by Musk.

Prior to the annexation, Musk argued at the conference that Kherson and Zaporizhzhia ought to remain up for negotiation in order to provide Crimea with water supplies. Hill explained in the Monday interview with Politico that the two territories essentially control all water supplies into Crimea, a dry peninsula lacking in rivers.

"It's unlikely Elon Musk knows about this himself. The reference to water is so specific that this clearly is a message from Putin," she told the outlet.

Musk's sudden emergence as an apparent player in foreign affairs may seem curious, but it's actually a "classic Putin play," Hill said.

"Putin does this frequently," she told Politico. "He uses prominent people as intermediaries to feel out the general political environment, to basically test how people are going to react to ideas."

It's noteworthy that Putin's most recent intermediary is Elon Musk — an American tech billionaire — especially given Musk's reverence throughout Russia.

"Elon Musk has enormous leverage as well as incredible prominence," Hill said.

Musk did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

But powerful men with big egos are the exact sort of pawns that Putin has experience manipulating, according to Simon Miles, an assistant professor at Duke University's Sanford School of Public Policy and a historian of the Soviet Union and US-Soviet relations.

"A lot of Vladimir Putin's political success is predicated on managing highly egotistical gajillionaires," he told Insider in an interview last week, referencing Russia's oligarchs.

Musk's involvement in the war is ultimately emblematic of Putin's effort to "short-circuit" the diplomatic process, Hill said.

"He wants to lay out his terms and see how many people are going to pick them up," she added. "All of this is an effort to get Americans to take themselves out of the war and hand over Ukraine and Ukrainian territory to Russia."

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2022/12/02/commentary/world-commentary/elon-musk-agenda/?utm_source=pianoDNU&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=72&pnespid=pbeTndZH_PHF97DopkOs7fIT.R4PqD1khR4rQFcut1GVumapxnLpMnk7eJVFzKOLYKLSJzg

Elon Musk and his not-so-hidden agenda


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NEW HAVEN, CONNECTICUT – Why did Elon Musk purchase Twitter? His official answer — to defend free speech and democracy — is so unconvincing that the question won’t go away.

Musk’s repeated appeals to these ideals to justify important decisions he has made since taking over are so confounding that they raise deep suspicions about his motives. For example, Musk castigated the decision to remove former President Donald Trump’s account, arguing that “freedom of speech is the bedrock of a strong democracy.” But Trump’s account was removed because he was using it to spread conspiracy theories about the election to a wide audience with increasingly violent language.

It’s difficult to imagine a more effective way to undermine democracy than to give the president of the United States a platform to claim that a free and fair election that he lost was “stolen.” How would allowing Trump, still the leader of the Republican Party and the former leader of a democratic country, to use Twitter to attack democracy make democracy stronger?

A democratic system relies on widespread acceptance of the legitimacy of its rules. This legitimacy is expressed, most obviously, in voting. So, it is no accident that those seeking to destroy the legitimacy of democracy spread disinformation that undermines trust in the electoral system.

But there are other ways to undermine democratic legitimacy. Democracy is based on political equality. The most obvious expression of this is the principle of “one person, one vote.” But political equality has a broader significance — it means that each of our voices can be heard. As the philosopher Stephen Darwall has argued, in a democracy, it must be possible to speak truth to power.

Preserving democratic legitimacy thus means protecting a democratic information space — a domain of mutual trust in which citizens feel confident that they can debate and criticize freely on the basis of a shared consensus about reality. There are well-established methods to undermine a shared sense of reality, and hence destroy the possibility of a democratic information space. Giving a platform to powerful people who spread outrageous conspiracy theories is one of them.

There are plenty of others. In their book “Merchants of Doubt,” historians Naomi Oreskes of Harvard and Erik Conway of Caltech showed how both the tobacco industry and the fossil-fuel industry funded research intended to spread doubt about the scientific consensus surrounding smoking and climate change. The result was policy paralysis. Undermining public trust by sowing illegitimate doubt destroyed the possibility of a democratic information space to deliberate about these issues.

Even if you are concerned about climate change, you may oppose efforts to mitigate it if you believe that the real agenda behind those efforts is a plot to subjugate humanity under an eco-totalitarian regime.

All that is needed to destroy the possibility of a democratic information space for particular political issues, such as climate change, is to provide a platform for and give legitimacy to would-be propagandists. But it is possible to generalize this strategy — to target the possibility of democratic legitimacy tout court, by destroying the possibility of consensus on any issue. To do so, one would need a platform that gave equal weight to all voices spreading conspiracy theories about every imaginable issue of public political concern. Kremlin operatives attempted this with their RT television channel. Musk is now attempting this strategy with Twitter.

It is clear why the fossil-fuel industry would want to undermine the possibility of democratically sanctioned action on climate change. But why would the world’s richest man want to undermine the legitimacy of democracy itself?

The answer, by now, should be clear. In a healthy democracy, a shared democratic information space allows everyone to speak truth to anyone. This is the essence of political equality. In a healthy democracy, a middle-class journalist can publish well-researched exposes of multinational corporations or spectacularly wealthy individuals that contribute to a popular consensus in favor of constraining their actions, increasing their taxes or otherwise holding them to account. If one destroys that information space by nurturing the spread of mass suspicion, it will no longer be possible to marshal citizens against the powerful in this way.

For powerful individuals, democratic legitimacy is a threat, because it is a check on their power. Why wouldn’t one of the world’s most powerful individuals want to eliminate it?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/musk-drew-the-line-on-ye-adding-to-confusion-over-twitter-s-free-speech-rules/ar-AA14PQOk?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=5a357d16e4a44033e11f4405a9d57457

Musk drew the line on Ye, adding to confusion over Twitter's free speech rules


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Musk drew the line on Ye, adding to confusion over Twitter's free speech rules
Musk drew the line on Ye, adding to confusion over Twitter's free speech rules
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A “general amnesty” has restored hundreds of accounts of right-wing activists and QAnon adherents, according to data reviewed by NBC News. The reinstatement of far-right accounts has coincided with a series of bans of left-wing accounts, leaving users unsure of how the company is now applying its rules.

“The ambiguity is a problem,” said Yoel Roth, who recently departed as the head of trust and safety at Twitter. “People don’t know if the rules have changed, and amnesty suggests that at least at some level, there’s disagreement with removing some of those folks. So, we’re seeing a lot of lines being pushed, coupled with more constrained enforcement. It’s a dangerous combination.”

The reinstatements and bans come as researchers continue to monitor an uptick in hate speech, and high-profile users leave the platform. Together, they have created a shift in the platform that has been noticed by Musk’s critics, as well as his supporters.

Musk, who took control of Twitter in late October, has maintained that the company has not changed any of its moderation policies, though Twitter did announce this week that it is no longer enforcing its Covid misinformation policy.

But Musk has also used informal Twitter polls to make major decisions, first to restore the account of former President Donald Trump, and then to enact “general amnesty” to suspended accounts.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My definition of a hero is one who risks life, career, wealth, etc. for the good of others. Musk clearly qualifies, considering the fortune he spent to reveal scores of memos and emails proving that the Biden campaign and White House directed the laptop coverup and social media censorship that so clearly swung the biggest and most criminal election frauds in U.S. history.

And we've only seen the tip of the iceberg yet.

Your criminal president, his campaign managers, his administration, and the DNC across the board have once again proved Fox News right, with escalating piles of proof still to come.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
Your criminal president, his campaign managers, his administration, and the DNC across the board have once again proved Fox News right, with escalating piles of proof still to come.


Considering the recent ruling from the US appeals court I'm guessing your criminal president will be in jail quicker for stealing all those documents; something your Fox news forgot to publish.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does Hunter Biden's drug use and bad judgment have to do with the Presidential election? Should all the Trump children be investigated too?

I guess Iso really wanted to see Hunter's dick pics! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that isobars is drunk on the hope that a Republican House will open a Pandora's Box that will quickly fulfill all of his farfetched dreams. Instead, he will find a circus of right wing clowns that prove just how inept and worthless the Republican party is these days.

To quote you, "And we've only seen the tip of the iceberg yet."
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
My definition of a hero is one who risks life, career, wealth, etc. for the good of others. Musk clearly qualifies, considering the fortune he spent to reveal scores of memos and emails proving that the Biden campaign and White House directed the laptop coverup and social media censorship that so clearly swung the biggest and most criminal election frauds in U.S. history.

And we've only seen the tip of the iceberg yet.

Your criminal president, his campaign managers, his administration, and the DNC across the board have once again proved Fox News right, with escalating piles of proof still to come.


dumber than dumb, biden was not in the Whitehouse before and during the election you dumber than a rock idiot. your pediphile hero was running the executive branch moron.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
My definition of a hero is one who risks life, career, wealth, etc. for the good of others. Musk clearly qualifies, considering the fortune he spent to reveal scores of memos and emails proving that the Biden campaign and White House directed the laptop coverup and social media censorship that so clearly swung the biggest and most criminal election frauds in U.S. history.

And we've only seen the tip of the iceberg yet.

Your criminal president, his campaign managers, his administration, and the DNC across the board have once again proved Fox News right, with escalating piles of proof still to come.


more mo, we have stormy daniels and what was the other females name that was a porn star, no I am not talking about Melania's early career. Well the one that was a a catch and grab story by an enquirer type obviously right wing media. Remember they stopped a story about trump f-ing
porn stars while Malania was pregnant. so he could be president.

So now we have a so called media twitter that may have sensored a story but not kill it because others were onviously in the know and it did not meet their requirements to be published. But trumps friend bought this story and hid it so no media could find out about it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/intel-officials-who-claimed-hunter-biden-laptop-was-russian-disinformation-far-more-blameworthy-than-twitter-censors/ar-AA14WJwV?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=8e89270c2ad7494580ea793197777240




Intel officials who claimed Hunter Biden laptop was ‘Russian disinformation’ far more blameworthy than Twitter censors

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