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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as I said fire garland, he fought to stop the barr BS to see the light of day on the Mueller BS. Barr lied and would not allow us to see that Trump did obstruct justice by intimidating witnesses and more.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/william-barrs-unredacted-doj-memo-trump-deserves-outrageo-rcna45068


William Barr's unredacted memo about Trump deserves more outrage

The contents of the memo and the hand that Merrick Garland's Justice Department had in keeping it from being released are disturbing.


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A 2019 unredacted Justice Department memo, relied upon by then-Attorney General William Barr to justify his decision not to charge former President Donald Trump with committing obstruction of justice following Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, was released Wednesday.

The release was made possible thanks to a 2019 lawsuit filed by the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) under the Freedom of Information Act.

This unredacted memo may go unnoticed by many Americans because both Trump’s and President Joe Biden’s Justice Department delayed its release for years until now — when the Mueller probe seems like ancient history.

This unredacted memo may go unnoticed by many Americans because both Trump’s and President Joe Biden’s Justice Department delayed its release for years until now — when the Mueller probe seems like ancient history. But the contents of the memo should outrage every American, and the misguided efforts of Biden’s Justice Department to oppose its release gives us all a reason to worry about Attorney General Merrick Garland’s perspective.

To people familiar with the department’s byzantine organizational hierarchy, the positions of the memo’s authors — the assistant attorney general for the Office of Legal Counsel and the principal associate deputy attorney general — are significant. For those not familiar with these two positions: if this were, say, high school, those in the legal counsel’s office are the “nerds,” and those in the deputy attorney general office are the “jocks.”

The head of the Office of Legal Counsel does not prosecute cases because OLC is the egg-head think tank of the Justice Department, tasked with advising not only the attorney general but also the Office of the President and all executive branch agencies. In essence, it’s a group of lawyers’ lawyers — the legal department of the nation’s law firm.


Importantly, OLC does not make charging decisions in cases. The principal associate deputy attorney general is the top adviser to the deputy attorney general, who is the number two at the Justice Department. Known as “the PADAG” in the department parlance, this job is an extremely powerful position and is actively involved in high-level prosecution decisions. The fact that the memo was co-authored by these two officials signals that Barr — a two-time attorney general well-versed in the department’s bureaucracy — sought maximum credibility.

But the resulting work product is an embarrassment.



First, the legal analysis is laughably bad. In a nutshell, the memo takes the position that despite the evidence uncovered by the Mueller probe of Trump’s efforts to obstruct justice and tamper with witnesses, a prosecution would be unwarranted because Mueller concluded that there was no evidence of collusion in Volume I. The memo argues that without a crime or criminal conspiracy (collusion) “toward which any obstruction or attempted obstruction was directed,” it would be inappropriate to charge obstruction of justice. It doesn’t take a legal scholar to understand that the whole point of interfering with a criminal investigation is to avoid being charged, so the memo potentially rewards those who successfully obstruct justice.


Bill Barr lied about considering charging Trump with obstruction of Mueller, court says
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Second, from an integrity standpoint, the memo reads, as New York Times reporter Charlie Savage tweeted, “like a defense lawyer’s brief.” It’s a sentiment not unlike the one shared by Amy Berman Jackson, the federal judge who oversaw the CREW lawsuit seeking access to the memo. Last year, as the Justice Department continued to fight the memo’s full release through an appeal, Jackson opined that her review of the evidence in the case showed that the Justice Department’s real priority at the time the memo was written was not legal analysis but political cover for Barr when he reported to Congress that the department had determined that Trump should not be charged with obstruction of justice.

Biden’s Justice Department, led by Garland, could have stopped fighting and not continued with an appeal of the trial court’s decision. But instead, the current Justice Department stayed the course initially charted by Barr. Now, I understand why the department would not want to agree to release OLC memos. It doesn’t want to create a slippery slope of being expected to release them every time the public wants to see what’s going on at the Justice Department, but the Barr memo seems like a poor case to stand on principle.


Perhaps the Biden Justice Department’s efforts to oppose the release of this evidence of Barr’s corrupting politicization of the department arises from Garland being, as one commentator described, “a kind of radical institutionalist, a stickler for regular order, a true believer in the norms and processes put in place after Watergate that weathered nearly every storm until Trump.”

But institutions, like buildings, require solid foundations. And the foundation of the Justice Department was damaged by Trump and Barr, much the way a storm may damage a building’s foundations. Repairing that kind of damage cannot be accomplished by just covering it up. Failing to address severe damage to buildings and institutions reduces structures to ruins.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garland needs to be fired, but not for what he stated but because he is so Johnny lately and did not appoint independent counsels right after taking office

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/no-white-house-participation-whatsoever-merrick-garland-douses-team-trump-s-interference-claims/ar-AA12jBxN?cvid=ee5bbb3776274858f2721efd7d24b6e8&ocid=winp2sv1plustaskbarhover


'No White House participation whatsoever': Merrick Garland douses Team Trump's interference claims


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United States Attorney General Merrick Garland on Tuesday pushed back against baseless claims made by former President Donald Trump and his attorneys that President Joe Biden has been secretly orchestrating the litany of probes into Trump.

During an interview with C-SPAN, a reporter noted that "a number of President Trump's allies have suggested without any evidence that you are conducting these investigations at the behest of the Biden White House. I just want to give you an opportunity to address that."

Garland stated that "I think that the president made clear when he appointed me that he would not interfere with in any way any criminal investigations and he has stood by that. And there has been no White House participation whatsoever."
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now Garland is trying to put a clean-as-a-whistle father of 7 (Houck) into prison for 11 years because he pushed an activist out of his 12-yo kid's face. Houck volunteered to turn himself in (after local officials had declared his push justifiable), but NOOOOOO ... 20-30 FBI storm troopers in full SWAT regalia stormed his home, pointed rifles at his head in front of his little kids, and hauled him away. (I can't stand bible-thumpers or other activists in my face, but putting the former in prison for 11 years when mass looters and dangerous wild animals are given free reign by YOUR leaders is incomprehensible.)

Worse yet, this is going on across the nation by the dozens of instances, and your media are hiding it from you with your eager cooperation and complicity. Have you even seen the videos of animals throwing old ladies down concrete stairways, stomping them near to death, etc. as onlookers just point and shoot their cell phones rather than helping the victim by bludgeoning the attackers into hamburger with anything movable or shooting them 16 times?

The leader of YOUR party and YOU disgusting people are allowing, often pushing for, sometimes apparently even instigating this totalitarian behavior by Garland's (actually Soros') minions and by animals allowed to roam free, and very few of you demonstrate any awareness of what the world is like beyond TikTok sound bites or tweets. Is it any wonder that so few rational, honest, intelligent, informed people are willing to regard you and your leaders as adult OR human? How are YOU going to feel, and what are YOU going to do about it when animals YOUR politicians freed from prison stomp YOUR grandmother to fugging bits and pieces with no lasting consequences?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars is howling at the moon again while swinging blindly at shadows. No doubt, he's drunk with rage. His face must be a fuming beet red.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had suggested to friends a special prosecutor be appointed on each potential crime by trump, at least 6 of them. Been saying it since the get go to friends.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doj-considers-special-counsel-for-trump-if-he-runs-in-2024-report/ar-AA13IpYX?ocid=winp2sv1plustaskbarhover&cvid=9f73fc68e4cc4548b5caf3f1f3a6db04

DOJ considers special counsel for Trump if he runs in 2024: Report


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Justice Department officials are discussing whether there is a need to appoint a special counsel to oversee two investigations into former President Donald Trump if he decides to run for president again in 2024, according to a new report.

Discussions about appointing a special counsel have touched on whether doing so would shield the Justice Department from claims that President Joe Biden's administration is seeking to undermine his top political rival, sources told CNN.

Trump has heavily teased that he is interested in a third campaign but has not formally declared.


He is under investigation for his handling of documents and is under scrutiny in an investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.

Related video: Exclusive: DOJ mulling potential special counsel if Trump runs in 2024

said this just today.
Trump has broadly denied any wrongdoing, claiming he is the target of political witch hunts.

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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2023 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is the perfect example, a person involved with Rudy for years decides to out him and has recording and evidence from cell phone records and rudys emails.. What more do you need to open an investigation by a new special prosecutor on trump and Rudy selling pardons and invalidating those pardons. Fire this attorney general for not immediately announcing that this was going to begin an investigation to look into it and if the apparent evidence was sufficient he would appoint an independent counsel or special prosecutor.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumpworld-has-a-vested-interest-in-rudy-guiliani-settling-out-of-court-with-new-accuser-legal-expert/ar-AA1btCC4?cvid=6cc9f05f03de4b6ee350d0bfcb345935&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=7

Trumpworld has a 'vested interest' in Rudy Guiliani settling out of court with new accuser: legal expert


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According to a former prosecutor, allegations that former Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani was selling presidential pardons for millions likely has some members of Trumpworld worried about what he might say under oath if the civil suit filed by a former associate goes to trial.

Earlier in the week, the former New York City mayor was slammed with a $10 million lawsuit, with former aide Noelle Dunphy alleging wage theft, sexual harassment, money laundering and the selling of pardons.

Discussing the alleged pardon selling on MSNBC on Sunday morning with fill-in host Charles Blow, former prosecutor David Henderson stated that the last thing Donald Trump and anyone who may have received a pardon -- legitimate or not -- wants is Giuliani being put on the stand and asked about the allegations.

With that in mind, he suggested the former Trump lawyer will likely be under wilting pressure to settle as soon as possible.


"We have to talk about this in two separate contexts," Henderson told the host. "The specific context in terms of what it means legally, but then we also have to talk about it in the context of what this means in the overall makeup of this case. In that context, Giuliani has a couple of problems here. The first one is: juries don't like lawyers -- plain and simple. They barely like us when we're standing up in front of them arguing, they definitely don't like us when we are on trial."


"The only thing they like less than lawyers are liars," he added, "and by the time this case gets to trial, there's going to be any number of things that can be used to impeach Giuliani based on his credibility, his ability to testify truthfully."

"Now, the law is a game of nerves," he elaborated. "Add to that, when we start to talk about him selling pardons, we're not just talking about how that comes up in the context of the courtroom that this case it may be tried in. It also means that lots of people have a vested interest in preventing him from talking and preventing this case from moving forward which means there's going to be pressure on him to resolve it sooner rather than later."

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