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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-faces-high-stakes-testimony-in-lawsuit-and-even-a-single-misstep-could-be-costly-nyt/ar-AA10ev9U?ocid=winp2sv1plus&cvid=be05d5cbef574a19a617424e4826bcc6


Trump faces high-stakes testimony in lawsuit — and 'even a single misstep could be costly': NYT


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The New York Times has written a lengthy preview of former President Donald Trump's upcoming testimony as part of an investigation by the New York Attorney General's Office into his business practices.

The Times notes that Trump's history of depositions shows him to be combative and aggressive, despite the fact that "even a single misstep could be costly" to him financially.

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Jason A. Forge, an attorney who sued Trump on behalf of people who were allegedly defrauded by his Trump University real estate school, tells the Times that Trump simply cannot restrain himself under questioning, which he said makes him a "dream deponent" for opposing counsel.

"He’s completely fearless in a deposition,” Forge explained. “He’s way more engaged than a normal witness, and you can tell he enjoys the challenge and revels in the verbal sparring."

READ MORE: Trump prosecution necessary -- no matter how 'awful' the MAGA movement response: conservative

The Times report notes that Trump's inability to keep his mouth shut hurt him in a defamation lawsuit that he filed against journalist Timothy O'Brien, who enraged Trump by reporting that his net worth was likely far less than what he claimed publicly.

At the time, one of O'Brien's lawyers directly asked Trump, "Have you ever exaggerated in statements about your properties?" only to have Trump reply, "I think everyone does."

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-urges-judge-to-toss-cohen-suit-citing-absolute-immunity/ar-AA10f02p?cvid=d52f0433cb16490498e0d6a6214cdf88&ocid=winp2sv1plus


Trump Urges Judge to Toss Cohen Suit, Citing ‘Absolute Immunity’


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(Bloomberg) -- Donald Trump urged a judge to toss out a civil suit filed by his longtime lawyer Michael Cohen, who claims the former president tried to silence him before the 2020 election by extending his stint in prison for lying to Congress.

The US Justice Department, which represents former Attorney General William Barr and other government defendants in the suit, also sought dismissal of the case at a hearing Tuesday in federal court in Manhattan.

Cohen claims the former president and Barr rescinded his release to home confinement in the early days of the pandemic, forcing him to spend 16 days in solitary confinement, in retaliation for his plan to write a tell-all book.

Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba argued the former president can’t be sued because he was in office at the time of the alleged conduct.

“This is a very clean cut case where absolute immunity does apply,” Habba said.

Asked by the judge if a president would still be immune from a civil suit if he ordered his valet to kidnap a political opponent and hold them for two weeks before an election, Habba replied “absolutely not.” Immunity “doesn’t mean they can go around willy nilly committing crimes,” she said.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
The 14th amendment* is THE reason that the J6 Kangaroo Court and all their media minions have used the word "insurrection" thousands of times. Just look at the dozens of brilliant and blinded partisans people right here fooled by Cheney's deliberate, OBVIOUS omission of Trump's repeated pleas to send in 20,000 national guardsmen (only the Speaker can authorize that, and she refused repeatedly) and to keep any protest peaceful. I still don't see how the capitol police opening the doors, waving people in, chatting amiably with them including the "viking" ... we've seen the official videos countless times ... constitutes an insurrection, let alone warrants years in prison including solitary confinement for Trump supporters but absolutely NADA for Colbert's staff even after they were ordered to leave. And why was Ray Epps not prosecuted for his continuous, strident, specific urgings to the crowd to not only storm but break into the capitol?

That kind of documented, public record, partisan misbehavior in this forum and in Washington disgust and amaze me more every day, no matter which side it comes from (but my GOD the far left here and in the real world is beyond comprehension).


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isobars cannot stop the lies. Trump NEVER authorized sending in the National Guard.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-miller-trump-gave-no-order-deploy-troops-january-6-2022-7

That was sworn testimony under oath by a Republican Trump appointee.

According to the National Guard, "The District of Columbia asked the Army for help, and our National Guard responded."

"No other requests were made," the Army secretary said.

https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article/2466077/dod-details-national-guard-response-to-capitol-attack/

Also, Pelosi did not stop the Guard from going in:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/13/sean-hannity/no-evidence-pelosi-rejected-trumps-authorization-2/

Needless to say, Iso gets his facts from Fox News:

Hannity repeatedly claimed that Trump authorized 20,000 National Guard troops for the Capitol before the riot

And he has the gall to complain about "partisan misbehavior"
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAS wrote:
Isobars cannot stop the lies.


I'm on the fence here. Does he know better & simply lie or is his brain so impaired that he actually believes what he posts? Maybe Mac is right about Iso's mental loss, but my GOD the far right is so far out of touch with reality believing the election was stolen & Jan 6 was a walk in the park. No destruction of property, no police injured or attacked, no women shot dead trying to force her way a chamber. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAS wrote:
Isobars cannot stop the lies. Trump NEVER authorized sending in the National Guard.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-miller-trump-gave-no-order-deploy-troops-january-6-2022-7

That was sworn testimony under oath by a Republican Trump appointee.

According to the National Guard, "The District of Columbia asked the Army for help, and our National Guard responded."

"No other requests were made," the Army secretary said.

https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article/2466077/dod-details-national-guard-response-to-capitol-attack/

Also, Pelosi did not stop the Guard from going in:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/13/sean-hannity/no-evidence-pelosi-rejected-trumps-authorization-2/

Needless to say, Iso gets his facts from Fox News:

Hannity repeatedly claimed that Trump authorized 20,000 National Guard troops for the Capitol before the riot

And he has the gall to complain about "partisan misbehavior"


SAS, what you posted seems to be true, but there is always more to the story.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-says-he-told-the-pentagon-10-000-national-guard-troops-would-be-needed-jan-6-but-was-ignored
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And still more. see
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/25/facebook-posts/no-capitol-security-not-only-pelosis-responsibilit/ .

It points out that the speaker is not solely in charge of capitol security. It goes on to say that she shares that responsibility with two other officials, the Sgt at Arms and the capitol police chief. Oooooh ... three whole people, none of which admits final authority to allow the POTUS to send in the NG. Guess who wields the most power in that finger-pointing gallery.

Who's on first?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
SAS wrote:
Isobars cannot stop the lies. Trump NEVER authorized sending in the National Guard.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-miller-trump-gave-no-order-deploy-troops-january-6-2022-7

That was sworn testimony under oath by a Republican Trump appointee.

According to the National Guard, "The District of Columbia asked the Army for help, and our National Guard responded."

"No other requests were made," the Army secretary said.

https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article/2466077/dod-details-national-guard-response-to-capitol-attack/

Also, Pelosi did not stop the Guard from going in:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/13/sean-hannity/no-evidence-pelosi-rejected-trumps-authorization-2/

Needless to say, Iso gets his facts from Fox News:

Hannity repeatedly claimed that Trump authorized 20,000 National Guard troops for the Capitol before the riot

And he has the gall to complain about "partisan misbehavior"


SAS, what you posted seems to be true, but there is always more to the story.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-says-he-told-the-pentagon-10-000-national-guard-troops-would-be-needed-jan-6-but-was-ignored


So not true. Trump systematically put people in place so that he could prevent deployment of the National Guard. Of course the Washington Examiner is part of the right wing echo chamber, not a journalism effort.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Donald Trump was going to have a peaceful rally, why would 10,000 National Guard troops be needed? Did Trump say in advance that he was going to whip up the folks at his rally into an angry mob that he would ultimately unleash to violently attack the Capitol Building?

In the end, you have to wonder why Trump did absolutely nothing to stop the violent mob for hours while eagerly watching the whole thing unfold on TV. It kind of makes the whole idea of wanting the National Guard involved to protect the Capital Building a total pantload.

If the truth be told, and the National Guard was actually requested, it was likely that Trump simply wanted to raise the numbers of folks attending his rally and to hype its overall spectacle. Also, maybe he even thought that the NG would chaperone his mob and give it some credibility, like it was necessary for government troops to help stop the Congressional Electoral count.

Given Trump's patent dishonesty during his whole presidency, one has to believe anything that he says to be suspect and untrue, especially since we all know that his foremost goal was to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and retain the presidency.

I have to ask though, can you expect that right wing sources like Fox News or the Washington Examiner would attempt to uncover the truth and target Trump's ugly and dishonest charade to stay in power?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh but all the text messages by the defense department co-incidentally also have been intentionally deleted, so i say lock them up...

Did Trump possibly authorize around 20,000 National Guard troops in case there were issues on January 6, 2021, but congress denied it?
On June 9, 2022 Sean Hannity of Fox News stated: “Donald Trump authorized up to 20,000 National Guard troops to protect the Capitol but was "rejected" by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer."

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When twenty million Americans began watching the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, the Fox audience got to watch an inventory of conspiracy theories from Phucker Carlson and Hannity.

Hannity had said repeatedly that trump authorized 20,000 National Guard troops for the Capitol before the riot. He said his efforts were thwarted by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

trump then reiterated Hannity saying he "offered up to 20,000 National Guard" before the event and that "crazy Nancy Pelosi turned down the offer."

There is no evidence to support such a claim and there is still no record of any such authorisation being made. "This is not true," Pelosi’s deputy chief of staff, Drew Hammill, said. "The Speaker of the House does not have the power to do this. No request was made for the National Guard before Jan. 6."

"No congressional official or body, has the authority to activate the National Guard to the U.S. Capitol, only the president. The D.C. National Guard reports "solely to the president of the United States." (It’s there as per its website.) And if the president calls the National Guard to the U.S. Capitol, no congressional official has the authority to decline its service.

As a matter of further fact, then-Vice President Mike Pence had called for the National Guard on Jan. 6 — not trump.

Naturally, Fox News chose to run with its tail between its legs. It refused to respond to a request for comment and the gullible little foxettes are running on empty.

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