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vientomas
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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techno900 wrote: | vientomas asked: Quote: | Under your definition, would you admit that the Trump administration took actions which amounted to totalitarianism? |
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Oh I don't know. How 'bout declaring the Presidential election a fraud and attempting to convince state elections officials to ignore the will of the voters? Does that work for you? |
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techno900
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:14 am Post subject: |
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vientomas wrote: | techno900 wrote: | vientomas asked: Quote: | Under your definition, would you admit that the Trump administration took actions which amounted to totalitarianism? |
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Oh I don't know. How 'bout declaring the Presidential election a fraud and attempting to convince state elections officials to ignore the will of the voters? Does that work for you? |
So far, non of you have presented an example. A departing president that complains about election fraud? Totalitarianism? That's a joke.
Quote: | I guess the big lie and telling the Proud Boys to stand by—so they could come back and try to halt the election certification—isn’t totalitarianism. In cra cra land. |
Mac's in la la land. The government wasn't imposing anything on anyone. Trump claimed fraud and a bunch of nut cases decided to protest at congress and it went crazy. All of you know that no matter what, congress was going to certify the election. There is absolutely nothing that that protest/insurrection could have done other than to delay the election certification, and only for a few hours. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:13 am Post subject: |
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None are so blind as those who do not look. |
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J64TWB
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Asked what authority he had to reopen the economy, he asserted, “I have the ultimate authority.”
Pressed later, he expanded: “I will put it very simply: The president of the United States has the authority to do what the president has the authority to do, which is very powerful. The president of the United States calls the shots.”
And then he upped the ante even more: “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total. And that’s the way it’s got to be. . . . |
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J64TWB
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Trump said in December 2017, “I have absolute right to do what I want to do with the Justice Department.”
He said in June 2018 that he had “the absolute right to PARDON myself.”
He said in July 2019, “I have an Article II [of the Constitution], where I have to the right to do whatever I want as president.” |
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J64TWB
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Blackmailing foreign countries to interfere in elections on his behalf.
Sending federal agents to beat and tear gas peaceful protestors.
Claim the press is “the enemy of the people” and “they should be executed”.
I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on….. |
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boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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techno900 wrote: | vientomas wrote: | techno900 wrote: | vientomas asked: Quote: | Under your definition, would you admit that the Trump administration took actions which amounted to totalitarianism? |
Such as? |
Oh I don't know. How 'bout declaring the Presidential election a fraud and attempting to convince state elections officials to ignore the will of the voters? Does that work for you? |
So far, non of you have presented an example. A departing president that complains about election fraud? Totalitarianism? That's a joke.
Quote: | I guess the big lie and telling the Proud Boys to stand by—so they could come back and try to halt the election certification—isn’t totalitarianism. In cra cra land. |
Mac's in la la land. The government wasn't imposing anything on anyone. Trump claimed fraud and a bunch of nut cases decided to protest at congress and it went crazy. All of you know that no matter what, congress was going to certify the election. There is absolutely nothing that that protest/insurrection could have done other than to delay the election certification, and only for a few hours. |
Wow.. that’s quite a whitewashing of the events of January 6th… |
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swchandler
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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techno900, do you actually believe that there was election fraud that ultimately resulted in Donald Trump's loss? From your comments, you seem to. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Techno lives and breathes in the Hannity world. It’s his version of Westworld. |
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wsurfer
Joined: 17 Aug 2000 Posts: 1635
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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techno900 wrote: | vientomas wrote: | techno900 wrote: | vientomas asked: Quote: | Under your definition, would you admit that the Trump administration took actions which amounted to totalitarianism? |
Such as? |
Oh I don't know. How 'bout declaring the Presidential election a fraud and attempting to convince state elections officials to ignore the will of the voters? Does that work for you? |
So far, non of you have presented an example. A departing president that complains about election fraud? Totalitarianism? That's a joke.
Quote: | I guess the big lie and telling the Proud Boys to stand by—so they could come back and try to halt the election certification—isn’t totalitarianism. In cra cra land. |
Mac's in la la land. The government wasn't imposing anything on anyone. Trump claimed fraud and a bunch of nut cases decided to protest at congress and it went crazy. All of you know that no matter what, congress was going to certify the election. There is absolutely nothing that that protest/insurrection could have done other than to delay the election certification, and only for a few hours. |
Unless they killed someone! Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi and others (except Turtle neck McConnell) were all targets. A mob of insurrectionists not having any clue went wild based on the invitation from the loser 45 and others egging them on during their "rally"
So you think it was just a fruitless exercise from the insurrectionists?
As usual you are clueless.
BIC Techno 900 designers must be puking that you have adopted the name!!!
The cancer on our democracy highlighted on January 6th still needs to be removed! |
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