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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, his deputy and three members who guarded Roger Stone exchanged nearly 20 phone calls over three hours on Jan. 6, coinciding with the first assault on police barricades protecting the U.S. Capitol and spanning the time the three members breached the building, prosecutors charged Thursday.

In a new indictment adding previously charged Stone guards Joshua James, 33, of Arab, Ala., and Roberto Minuta, 36, of Prosper, Tex., to an Oath Keepers conspiracy case that now has 12 defendants, prosecutors bluntly laid a path to Rhodes and a person they said he put in charge of his group’s operations that day.

Prosecutors identified that individual only as “Person 10.” Rhodes in interviews has said he tapped a former Army explosives expert and Blackwater contractor nicknamed “Whip” as on-the-ground team leader.



we can bet this information will never be front pages of the rso called liberal media. And certainly will not be front page or ever shown in the Fux news fake and alt media.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow looks like he made 1 million in speaking fees to the lemmings claiming the election was stollen....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominion-demands-ex-michigan-lawmaker-retract-voter-fraud-claims/ar-BB1fiy5q?ocid=uxbndlbingoff


Dominion demands ex-Michigan lawmaker retract voter fraud claims


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Dominion Voting Systems released a statement demanding former Michigan state Sen. Patrick Colbeck retract "false claims" he has made alleging the company of fraud in public presentations.

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The company accused Colbeck of waging a "disinformation campaign" while touring the state to give presentations called "Case for MI Decertification," during which he claimed Dominion was "stealing the election" from former President Donald Trump, according to the complaint document obtained by Detroit News.


"You are knowingly sowing discord in our democracy, all the while soliciting exorbitant amounts of money — totaling over $1 million so far — from your audiences paid directly to your personal business," said the letter signed by attorneys Thomas Clare and Megan Meier of Clare Locke LLP, a defamation law firm based in Virginia.

Election fraud claims against Dominion, which issues voting machines to counties across the country and 66 of Michigan's 83 counties, have been fostered by Trump and his allies. The result has been multiple defamation lawsuits in the past several months since the November election.

The company filed a $1.3 billion lawsuit against Trump's former personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, a similar suit against lawyer Sidney Powell, and a $1 billion suit against MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell. In seeking to dismiss the lawsuit against her, Powell argued that "no reasonable person would conclude" that her comments about alleged election fraud "were truly statements of fact." Last weekend, an attorney for Dominion declined to rule out that Trump could be sued next.

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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/defiant-cheney-blasts-republicans-for-emboldening-liar-trump-opposing-the-constitution-111743045786?cid=eml_mra_20210511&user_email=e73377d3e40790eecbf6a99203e1476ea2a23c644c2045abd739b8f9e629a73b


Defiant Cheney blasts Republicans for emboldening 'liar' Trump, opposing the constitution


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Rachel Maddow shares highlights from a speech by Rep. Liz Cheney on the House floor in which she excoriates her Trump-supporting Republican colleagues for failing to support the Constitution and the rule of law and calling democracy into question by parroting Donald Trump's lies about the 2020 election.

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

these officers need to be taken to task, they are using their special positions to cause sedition. If they have proof is one thing but since trump appointed judges and right wing states have concluded Biden won the burden of having real proof is upon them. Again adding in evidence 100 prominent republicans have signed a letter to start a new party over these right wing lies and seditious acts by right wingers. again further evidence that these military idiots need to show us facts for such seditious acts.

I believe if they have no evidence that can prove even the right wing packed courts were wrong that they should have their careers and pensions removed and investigated for sedition. They have had ample time to support and send proof to the courts.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/11/retired-brass-biden-election-487374


'Disturbing and reckless': Retired brass spread election lie in attack on Biden, Democrats


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A day after 124 retired generals and admirals released a letter spreading the lie that President Joe Biden stole the election, current and former military officers are speaking out, calling the missive a dangerous new sign of the military being dragged into the trenches of partisan warfare.

The open letter on Monday from a group calling itself Flag Officers 4 America advanced the false conspiracy theory that the presidential vote was rigged in Biden's favor and warned that the nation is "in deep peril" from "a full-blown assault on our Constitutional rights."

“Under a Democrat Congress and the Current Administration,” they wrote, “our Country has taken a hard left turn toward Socialism and a Marxist form of tyrannical government which must be countered now by electing congressional and presidential candidates who will always act to defend our Constitutional Republic.”

The broadside also raises questions about “the mental and physical condition of the Commander in Chief" and sounds the alarm about a host of hot-button issues, such as the border wall. It goes on to accuse congressional leaders of "using the U.S. military as political pawns with thousands of troops deployed around the U.S. Capitol Building."

The group's website claims that "we are in a fight for our survival as a Constitutional Republic like no other time since our founding in 1776."

As news of the letter spread, it set off a round of recriminations among current and former military members. One serving Navy officer, who did not want to be identified publicly, called it "disturbing and reckless."

Jim Golby, an expert in civil-military relations, called it a "shameful effort to use their rank and the military's reputation for such a gross and blatant partisan attack," while a retired Air Force colonel who teaches cadets at the Air Force Academy, Marybeth Ulrich, labeled it "anti-democratic."

"I think it hurts the military and by extension it hurts the country," said retired Adm. Mike Mullen, a former chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, describing it as replete with "right-wing Republican talking points."

The talking points in the letter fall generally in line with die-hard loyalists in Trump's orbit, who question the results of the election despite the fact that the courts and Trump's own Justice Department said there was no reason to declare him the winner.

Several experts said it reminded them of the current crisis in civil-military relations in France, where dozens of retired generals were recently sanctioned after warning in an open letter in a right-wing magazine of civil war for the "protection of our civilisational values."

That letter was followed up by an anonymous one from current officers calling French politicians cowards for not dealing with the Muslim population, sparking calls for a purge of the ranks. The controversy has undermined public confidence in the French military and recalled the bitter feuds between the brass and elected officials during the early years of the Cold War.

The American letter was striking for several reasons. It is not unusual for retired officers to take sides in electoral politics and endorse candidates. But its fiery, even angry, language and conspiracy-mongering struck multiple long-time observers as particularly out of bounds and dangerous. Coming outside the campaign season was also seen as rare if not unprecedented.

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Notable signatories included retired Army Brig. Gen. Don Bolduc, who is running for the U.S. Senate in New Hampshire; retired Army Lt. Gen. William Boykin, who stirred controversy for some of his anti-Muslim views and is now executive vice president of the Family Research Council; and retired Vice Adm. John Poindexter, who was the deputy national security adviser for President Ronald Reagan and was convicted in the Iran-Contra Affair.

The letter, mostly signed by ex-military leaders who have been out of uniform for decades, was organized by retired Army Maj. Gen. Joe Arbuckle, a Vietnam veteran who retired in 2000.

Arbuckle, in response to questions from POLITICO, acknowledged in an email that the partisan nature of the effort is not normal but defended it as necessary, given what's at stake.

”Retired generals and admirals normally do not engage in political actions," he said, "but the situation facing our nation today is dire and we must speak out in order to be faithful to our oath to support and defend the Constitution of the U.S. against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

"We are facing threats greater than at any other time since our country was founded," Arbuckle added. "Aside from China, many of these threats flow directly from policy positions and actions of our own government. It is critical that the threats to our national security be brought to the attention of the American people and that is the main purpose of the letter. To remain silent would be a dereliction of duty.”

But the missive alarmed fellow officers in the halls of the Pentagon and far-flung bases due to its strident tone and for using the stature of the nation's generals and admirals to spread misinformation.

It also sent shock waves through the community of experts who train military officers on the long tradition of the U.S. military staying above the political fray.

That includes while in uniform, when they are prohibited from engaging in partisan politicking, and after they retire, when they have commonly kept their political views private in deference to that tradition and to safeguard the democratic principle of civilian control of the military.

The Pentagon declined through a spokesperson to comment on the letter. But others clearly took notice.

“That was way worse than I was expecting,” said Ulrich, a retired Air Force colonel who teaches civil-military relations at the Army War College and Air Force Academy. “They are perpetuating the big lie about the election. I think it is outrageous. Some of it is very anti-democratic behavior.”

She said she plans to use the letter in her classes to demonstrate to young military officers the extent to which the military's apolitical tradition has eroded in recent years and why that is dangerous.

“They are absolutely violating the norm to be apolitical,” she added. “They are being used for partisan purposes. They are going against their constitutional oath.”

Both parties have increasingly relied on the endorsements of retired military leaders to lend credibility to their campaigns and support for their national security views. Both Biden and Trump boasted of a long list of former military brass who were supporting their presidential bids, including some who served as official campaign advisers.

In some specific cases, highly regarded retired officers have staked out singular political positions, such as when retired Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal mounted a campaign against assault weapons or when retired Navy Adm. William McRaven accused Trump in 2019 of endangering the republic with his leadership.

The growing practice has raised concerns about blurring the civil-military divide and injecting politics into the armed forces.

The politicization of the military is also seen by some experts as a possible contributing factor to an erosion of the military's standing among the public, as found in a recent survey by the Ronald Reagan Institute.

But the new attack on Biden and the Democrats is seen as in a class of its own.

"I've seen a lot of these letters, but this one really is something," said Golby, a senior fellow at the Clements Center for National Security at The University of Texas at Austin and an expert on civil-military relations. "We've seen isolated statements from retired generals and admirals like McChrystal or McRaven, but this statement is the first full-blown partisan attack from a large group of retired officers that is not explicitly tied to an election or specific issue."

"The tone is shocking," he added, "especially because it targets the entire Democratic party, implies the election was illegitimate and contains a number of verifiable lies."

Mullen also said the timing was unusual. "Normally those kinds of things occur in an election," he said. "It's out of cycle."

"The only positive sign," added Golby, "is that most of the retired officers who signed this letter have been out of the military for almost two decades, and that no recent retirees joined this shameful effort to use their rank and the military's reputation for such a gross and blatant partisan attack."

Mullen also pointed out that no retired four-stars signed it and only a handful of three-stars. "It's not very senior," he said. "In our world it's not very significant in terms of people."

But others were less sanguine. Peter Feaver, a scholar in civil-military relations at Duke University who served on the National Security Council under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, called the letter "an appalling breach of military professionalism and the norms on which democratic civil-military relations depends.”

"For the first few decades after World War II, the French military had some of the worst civil-military relations of any of the advanced industrial democracies," added Feaver, a retired naval officer. "They had a genuine coup attempt in 1961. Every military that coups or threatens to coup constructs a narrative in which the military is acting to save the country from something worse than military rule. Clearly the authors are attempting to write that narrative.”

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maricopa County (AZ) officials have already admitted they don't have the router passwords. They are not in charge of the election. That's illegal. Michigan officials are admitting the exact same thing now!
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maricopa County (AZ) officials have already admitted they don't have the router passwords. They are not in charge of the election. That's illegal. Michigan officials are admitting the exact same thing now!


Typical paranoid take by the madman of Malibu. Here's an article that actually discusses what was found:

https://www.abc15.com/news/state/is-maricopa-county-audit-connected-to-the-internet-wi-fi-router-found-on-site-raises-concerns

It is not clear whether this means anything, or if it is a security breach by the lunatics doing the illegal audit.

But look for the next tabloid post from bardie.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the fact-based world. Article by Bob Christie, AP.

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PHOENIX (AP) — The Republican who now leads the Arizona county elections department targeted by a GOP audit of the 2020 election results is slamming former President Donald Trump and others in his party for their continued falsehoods about how the election was run.

Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer on Saturday called a Trump statement accusing the county of deleting an elections database “unhinged” and called on other Republicans to stop the unfounded accusations.

“We can’t indulge these insane lies any longer. As a party. As a state. As a country,” Richer tweeted.

Richer became recorder in January, after defeating the Democratic incumbent.

The former president’s statement came as Republican Senate President Karen Fann has demanded the Republican-dominated Maricopa County Board of Supervisors come to the Senate to answer questions raised by the private auditors she has hired. The Senate took possession of 2.1 million ballots and election equipment last month for what was supposed to be a three-week hand recount of the presidential race won by Democratic President Joe Biden.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just the beginning
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/gop-actively-constructing-alternate-reality-to-support-trump-s-election-fraud-fantasy-111840325784?cid=eml_mra_20210513&user_email=e73377d3e40790eecbf6a99203e1476ea2a23c644c2045abd739b8f9e629a73b


GOP actively constructing alternate reality to support Trump's election fraud fantasy


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Rachel Maddow reports on Republican members of Congress offering bizarre revisionist descriptions of the January 6th insurrection and Rep. Liz Cheney is purged from GOP leadership for pointing out that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election and state level Republicans continue to attack voting rights, all to try to create a world that better fits Trump's fantasy that the election was stolen from him.

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Maricopa County (AZ) officials have already admitted they don't have the router passwords. They are not in charge of the election. That's illegal. Michigan officials are admitting the exact same thing now!


when Russian troll malibu barfie talks a stench comes out...

thats why paper ballots are so important to have. and they were checked two times...

you low to no level thinker.

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