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akrausz
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| I also have no-cams that look relatively flatter on the beach (even when set for power with the batten above the boom protruding in front of the mast). Both "types" have a deep profile when powered up. So does a sail that has a pre-shaped draft translate to any cam-like benefit for blasting back and forth? |
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NOVAAN
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| If you want a sail that feels and sails like a cam sail than get a cam sail. Are cam sails worth the extra rigging hassles and mast wear? Its been talked about a ton here. |
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dvCali
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| akrausz wrote: | | I also have no-cams that look relatively flatter on the beach (even when set for power with the batten above the boom protruding in front of the mast). Both "types" have a deep profile when powered up. So does a sail that has a pre-shaped draft translate to any cam-like benefit for blasting back and forth? |
A belly does not necessarily make a race sail ... And the Cheeta does not come to mind as a competitive free race sail. At the end of the story is marketed as a freeride ... does it still have a vinyl window?
If you want a very fast RAF sail I would forget about "pre-shaped'" and look somewhere else. The already mentioned Pont-7 ACX, or Severne NCX, or Nell Pryde Speedster. Or get a Point-z ACZ, it has two cams under the boom and promises to be marginally heavier than the ACX with the added low end/upwind potential given by the cams. https://point-7.com/zero-20-overview/acz-flatwater-simplicity-2020/
Also checkout Windsurf Uk, they have sail tests of freerace sails. |
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NOVAAN
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Vinyl window is gone in all 2020 Ezzy sails |
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akrausz
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Never really familiarized myself with Point 7. They look like nice sails. Interesting that the ACX is designed so that there is no downhaul tuning. Makes even more of a case for adjustable outhauls. |
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swchandler
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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In the early 90s, I was totally into cambered race sails, even down to 4.2.
While in more recent years I've focused more on the ease and durability of no-cams, they just don't have the upwind ability to match cammed sails, even those that I used many years ago.
Also, I think that some of that is the difference is using RDMs versus SDMs. I believe that the latter make for better structure and windward performance overall, especially when being powered up. |
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