Euro Pin vs. US Mast Base systems?

gerritt · Joined: 06 May 1998 Posts: 632 Location: Redwood City, CA

I would like feedback on the merits of Euro Pin vs. US Mast base connection systems. Which is stronger, easier to deal with around sand, preforms better. Please sound off.

Thanks

poussin · Joined: 14 Sep 2000 Posts: 191

Hi Gerrit

I switched to a euro pin a few years ago for the ease and simplicity of connecting and disconnecting it. I change it every other year for safety although
I've never had a problem. I know some sailors who change it every year no questions asked.
Very positive connection and easier to remove when done sailing.
Try one!

Greg

dllee · Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay

Been using the 2 pin system since '88, haven't had any failures that led to paddles, swims, or any real problem. Did have single side pins break, and of course, uni joint breakages, and one slug that I tightened way too hard.
I don't change them at any schedule, and all last longer than one season.
The pin/aluminum interface is as good and anything, and even surfsailing for several years, never had a problem.

keycocker · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598

We had trouble confirming the engaging click sound with a euro pin if the break is noisy. It is easy to feel the us pins engaging correctly. No big deal n a lake but big surf.....

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

I found that the 2 pin universals just don't hold up well over time. I had recurring problems breaking off pins, and the plastic 2 pin cups would always get worn and become very wobbly. I've had no problems with the Euro-pin universals. They're pretty bullitproof. Lastly, I've had no problems with sand getting caught in Euro-pin mast extension, but I have to admit that I'm pretty fussy about keeping everything free of dirt and sand.

gerritt · Joined: 06 May 1998 Posts: 632 Location: Redwood City, CA

dllee · Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay

I used to work at windsurfing shops, so have seen a rather big sample.
When carbon extensions first came out, maybe later '90's, a lot of people bought them, and broke them at an alarming rate, especially surf sailors. I think I saw at least 15 broken carbon mast extensions.
I, OTOH, have broken 3 aluminum extensions, all in the surf washing machine.

loopless · Joined: 30 Jun 1997 Posts: 426

rwilde · Joined: 22 Feb 2001 Posts: 51

Go with the Euro pin . Kai clewed is on 8or 9 years ago. Streamlined and Goya systems work great. The Goya team uses them in all size surf. Way better connection than the spring pin bs.

beaglebuddy · Joined: 10 Feb 2012 Posts: 1120

If I am not mistaken 2 pin can only go down to 8 cm extension while euro pin can get zero extension which can be important using certain mast sail combinations you have.