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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The House Committee hearing with Hillary is tomorrow, and the Rep's are nervous and defensive about insiders spilling the beans that this is a partisan effort intended to hurt Hillary. The Democrats have developed a 120 page document, duly annoted, supporting that view and debunking most of the Republican talking points. Hillary has been rehearsing for 3 days, and is treating tomorrow's hearing much as a focused campaign debate. She will kill the Republicans, who remain convinced that doing your homework is not required as long as you speak at a 4th grade level.

Not to worry, Fox news continues to feed disinformation, and Isobars continues to believe it. All is well in Oz.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fick-shun wrote:

You guys may be down to Sanders or ... Sanders. Are ya ready for ANOTHER 18 trillion dollar hit on your taxes so no stoners, dropouts, windsurfers, illegal aliens, or millionaires with annual incomes <$80,000 have to pay for college, health care, cell phones, upside down mortgages, gender tweaks, solar panels, TIVO, cigarettes, or anything else (i.e., ANYTHING, in many states) their EBT cards cover?


So..... will Obamaphones morph into Berniephones?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama above 50%
Rethugs about to abort the entire Benghazi charade
Trump blitzing the field
Nasdaq on fire
Hillary a shoe -in next year
Pinch me....
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mac



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Stone nailed it: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trey-gowdy-just-elected-hillary-clinton-president-20151023
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody who relies on a music rag to get reliable info on politics or campus rapes, is just a fool.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I don't regularly read The Rolling Stone, I've always found Matt Taibbi's commentary to be well written and hard hitting. Sure he's got roots in the left, but that's not really seeing the whole picture in my view. Whether you like his perspective or not, he's consistently a worthy read.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:34 pm    Post subject: s Reply with quote

NW--where do you go to get your sour grapes? Benghazi?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Anybody who relies on a music rag to get reliable info on politics or campus rapes, is just a fool.

Anybody who thinks Rolling Stone is a music rag is just a nitwit, eh nitwit?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Anybody who relies on a music rag to get reliable info on politics or campus rapes, is just a fool.

Says the man who regularly relies on the most dubious sources in the history of print media.. NW- the righty media complex has you by the short and curlies and isn't likely to let go until next November... I think Jeb and Christie will be the Donald's road kill this week... A couple of decent candidates..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Republicans reap what they sow

By Renée Loth October 26, 2015 (Boston Globe)

‘Panic” may be too strong a word to describe what many establishment Republicans are feeling about the insurgency that has taken over Congress and the presidential campaign. Then again, maybe not. “We have to end this. We look absolutely crazy,” said New York Congressman Peter King after a bloc of 40 Congressional ultras tipped over the neatly-set table of succession in the US House this month. David Frum, a former speechwriter for George W. Bush, called the GOP’s turmoil “more than a little frightening.” On the campaign trail, party regulars are alarmed that half the nation’s likely Republican voters — or at least, the half who talk to pollsters — prefer a president without a lick of government experience. “The usual ways voters judge a candidate — experience, governing achievements, mastery of issues — have been devalued,” lamented Peter Wehner, who served in three Republican administrations. “Reason has given way to demagogy.”

None of these worrywarts would ever be mistaken for liberal. But they are pragmatists: They want to win. And after weeks of being gobsmacked by the rise of Donald Trump, Ben Carson, and the fractious Freedom Caucus, the establishment has begun to rally, prodding an uneasy consensus around Paul Ryan for house speaker and trying to slow Trump’s march as the party’s standard-bearer. “It is very important for Republicans to demonstrate to the country that they can trust us with the government,” said Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee.

But really, why should any of these sober-minded veterans be surprised? After 35 years of Republicans relentlessly bashing government, voters have been well taught to mistrust politicians and demean public service. They are drawn to candidates who reflect their own contempt. And if campaign rhetoric is rude, crude, and seemingly stewed, so much the better.

The party is reaping the bitter fruit of a carefully sown disdain. When Ronald Reagan, in his first inaugural address, said that “government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem,” he may only have been promoting a fiscally conservative ideology as a corrective to Great Society spending. But after decades of Republicans demonizing people on welfare, degrading teachers and other public workers, starving the public sector enough to guarantee its inefficiency, and demeaning the office of the presidency, voters got the message that all politics is rotten. Now these over-plucked chickens are coming home to roost.

Republicans have become adept at manipulating census data to draw congressional districts that only conservatives can win. But they’ve crafted them too well, because now even powerful Republican incumbents are being tossed out by uncompromising newcomers who claim to be free of Washington’s taint.

The ironies thicken. Leading the charge to stop Trump is the political arm of the Club for Growth, which has done its best to drive moderates and other apostates out of the party. The group’s PAC spent $1 million on anti-Trump ads in Iowa last month, tarring him with their worst epithets: “very liberal” and “just another politician.” But voters are drawn to Trump because he is antiestablishment, any establishment, and the Club for Growth will have to do a lot more to contain the untethered monster they’ve created.

It’s enough to give Democrats a good case of schadenfreude. But they shouldn’t get too smug. Government dysfunction is especially hard on the people Democrats care most about: low-income families, schoolchildren, frail elders, those who depend on public support to get by.

The steady debasement of politics has hurt the entire country, not just Republicans. It turns off the rational center and polarizes the electorate. When fewer people vote, extreme positions dominate, and it becomes impossible to govern. Just ask Barack Obama.

Renée Loth’s column appears regularly in the Globe.
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