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isobars



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DH, one of my solutions to the cushy ride vs planing power dilemma has been learning to use bigger sails than most people do for a given windspeed and/or board volume. The extra power boosts planing power so I can use smaller boards for their smoother ride and greater maneuverability. Yep, that leaves me stalling or sinking sooner than many others in the deepest lulls, but overall I tend to plane through ordinary lulls better than most people just because I'm rigged bigger. Besides, an occasional break in the water is a welcome relief in a long session. Too many such involuntary breaks means it's time for something bigger ... fin, sail, or board.

My other solution is wave-oriented boards with small tails and moderate width.

I switch to my big boards (85 to 95 liters at my 190-200#) primarily when a huge wind shadow demands it; when the holes are long, frequent, and deep; and after the sun has set and I want to make damned sure I don't have to swim my 6.2 home. I'd add "in waves" for DTL wave sailing.
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westender



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting pounded? You could argue that it's more about the technique and fin, than it is about the board?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naaaaah. There's only so much one can do about disorganized harsh chop with technique (there are many such techniques, as you know) and fin when sailing a flat-bottomed boat into it. While I find it fun for about one minute to blast across really horrible chop wide open just for laughs, the fun ends very quickly even if I stay upright. That crap destroys brain cells!

It's ended a few times with me wedged between the boom and the sail in the water, at which point the biggest laughs were by observers, as I was too busy trying to extricate myself to laugh as hard as they were ... especially when, at their urging, I fricking DID IT AGAIN.

I TOLD you it destroys brain cells! Sad

Mike \m/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My plan is to retire at 65, and it looks on track, so I've some years yet
to go. I am a "play as you go" kinda guy, so I've yet to regret many
decisions along the way, because I could be dead tomorrow.
I know plenty of retired guys who don't
get as many days as I do, but in retrospect, a military career, or one
in law enforcement, might not have been a bad idea ;*), though
I don't think my temperament really suits either of those.
I also married an older woman. No regrets there either.

I plan to ski with my grandkids next season.

-Craig

isobars wrote:
cgoudie1 wrote:
I only get about 75 planing days a year, but I attribute my
limited amount of days to not being retired, my age, and the weather.
I figure to do about double that when I quite working, if my body holds up.

The minute I realized I wasn't going to live forever, I began running the numbers and counting the days. So far I don't regret one bit retiring as early as I could. That goes double now that my years are numbered.

And I quit skiing when I left Utah.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

noshuzbluz wrote:
You can get a new OO for cheaper than any production board I know of. Check out the new site!

Two pristine OO's went for double digits at yesterday's swap meet.
A great-looking, light, solid, bright yellow (1998-9?) Screamer went unsold at $70.
Surfersteve's good, light, solid 2007 Mistral Mark Nelson Red Dot Wave went for $30 including a perfectly functional fitted board bag (thank you, Steve.)
Deals like that could make a trip to Hood River sort of free.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
I am a "play as you go" kinda guy, so I've yet to regret many decisions along the way, because I could be dead tomorrow.

in retrospect, a military career, or one
in law enforcement, might not have been a bad idea ;*), though
I don't think my temperament really suits either of those.

I plan to ski with my grandkids next season.

With apologies to dhmark for sidetracking his thread to other aspects of aging windsurfers (it was winding down anyway) ...
LOL! I initially misread that as "I plan to sell my grandkids next season".

I often look back at the promising DuPont research career the draft uprooted me from with my heels dragging all the way. I couldn't imagine having the temperament to tolerate the military, either. In retrospect, however, thank God and Ho Chi Ming for big favors. It got me away from the East Coast to fantastic dream worlds like Utah, I moved less often and with more choices than my DuPont peers did, I had far more vacation time than DuPont provided, I had time and opportunity to play outdoors almost daily, some aspects of my career were better in the military, and I was able to retire 20 years earlier. That's a long string of wins to offset a couple of losses (e.g., pay, job BS). I do not envy my coworkers in military or civilian careers who let the career advancement rat race displace family, personal, and/or play time. It sounds like you have that balance figured out.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
I had far more vacation time than DuPont provided, I had time and opportunity to play outdoors almost daily, some aspects of my career were better in the military, and I was able to retire 20 years earlier.
We taxpayers want to thank you for your service.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I know plenty of retired guys who don't get as many days as I do."


Craig, after being retired for a while now, I have to admit to sailing quite a bit less than when I working. When working, there is something about the welling need to bust out at any opportunity and have some fun.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
noshuzbluz wrote:
You can get a new OO for cheaper than any production board I know of. Check out the new site!

Two pristine OO's went for double digits at yesterday's swap meet.
A great-looking, light, solid, bright yellow (1998-9?) Screamer went unsold at $70.
Surfersteve's good, light, solid 2007 Mistral Mark Nelson Red Dot Wave went for $30 including a perfectly functional fitted board bag (thank you, Steve.)
Deals like that could make a trip to Hood River sort of free.


Daaang! Great deals!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm inventing a board that will carry itself to the water and ride smooth too. Cool
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