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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Is Bret the guy that drives the white chevy PU from NY?? |
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dennis1916
Joined: 03 Aug 2000 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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The post was on Youtube because I was curious to see what the yapping was all about. Likely the best move would have been to thank anyone who says anything like that, fix it, and move on to more important stuff. Important meaning, be safe, and watch from 1:14 to 1:19 of the video for the most important part of the video to beware of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpXmtnWc24&feature=related |
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loosescrew
Joined: 28 May 2001 Posts: 95
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:00 am Post subject: |
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I have seen it many times, even when the sail is attached to the board, it can be a hazard to others on the beach if not placed appropriately. Safety is first - never leave your sail unattended without an anchor of some sorts, especially in the wind. We have seen so many damaged sails, car dents, broken windows from people leaving their sail's unattended at the upper parking lot at Kanaha that drive's me, well INSANE! The instructor was correct in making that point and a more considerate response should have been thank you. Some peeps are unconscionable. |
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Bond1
Joined: 25 Apr 2000 Posts: 168
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:40 am Post subject: |
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There's no doubt these guys were a bit too casual about their sail placement. But to be fair, when I watch the video, I see very little sign of wind. There's a little wind noise on the mic when they're running, and a hint of a slight breeze in the trees. There's enough wind that the guy has to adjust how he's carrying the sail at one point. But overall it doesn't look like the sort of wind that would catch a sail while laying on the beach the way they had it. But like I said, they were a bit too casual about sail placement, and should have been more careful.
The instructor's aggressive approach got the sort of response he might have gotten from any of us. He was clearly agitated from the start, probably because he sees stuff like this all the time. But it's not the sort approach one might want to take if you really want to get your point across. But in his defense, I think he used the word "unsafe" rather than "insane". And he had a good point. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20936
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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The "It's all good" response, though, is so typical of today's people who just don't care about others' concerns. It's right up there with "Whatever" and "Chill, dude" as three euphemisms for "F You".
Cars blocking access to launch sites, rigs blocking paths into the water, cars parked under NO PARKING signs (the Hatchery has been closed due to that), untended sails in serious wind, loose dogs damaging gear/biting/crapping, awnings and BBQs and WSing gear blocking parking places on crowded days, people deliberately rigging ON your sail to keep theirs off the gravel, strangers parking you in ... we've all seen such selfish behavior SO many times that it's understandable when someone gets angry about it. Can you imagine how many times this full-time instructor has seen haole turrists' rigs tumbling down the beach? Some people just don't think, or maybe even care, about others. (This video looked windy to me, but that's not definitive, so we don't know the whole story here.) |
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merriam
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 95
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Much ado about nothing. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20936
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Tell that to the parents whose toddler's life was threatened by an untended sail. |
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mchaco1
Joined: 08 Sep 2010 Posts: 645
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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That guy was being a dick and got the response anyone would have given if some stranger starts running up,cursing in your face and demanding that you do something. It looked alright to me, the guy was 2 feet away from it and it wasnt even moving around. It doesnt seem like a "mainlander vs hawaiian thing... |
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loosescrew
Joined: 28 May 2001 Posts: 95
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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In late summer, a pro WS was taken down at the shoreline by another WS who let go of their gear. He was knocked down and suffered an knee injury all because of some kook not being responsible for their gear. If it is east wind it is seldom windy at the beach, however, because of the swirling winds that accompany east winds you will get blasts of wind that swirl at the beach and parking lot that will take your gear instantly. So it doesn't matter if it appears that there is no wind, there may not be at that moment but as soon as you walk away and turn your back on the gear... well you get my drift it only takes a second. It's not always all about yourself and courtesy goes a long way where ever you are. Just have some common sense. |
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jsampiero
Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 677
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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dennis1916 wrote: | watch from 1:14 to 1:19 of the video for the most important part of the video to beware of.
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I had to watch it twice.
The approacher could have been ever so slightly more diplomatic, but his point was valid. During board tests at that spot, every so often a sail would get left unattached as someone was switching boards or writing up a test sheet, and we'd find ourselves chasing it down the beach. Usually just a slight moment of embarrassment, but the truth is, someone COULD get really hurt.
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