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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:33 pm    Post subject: Abortion Reply with quote

The Supreme Court on Monday struck down a Louisiana law that would have required abortion providers to have admitting privileges at local hospitals, which activists say would have forced the closure of all but one abortion clinic in Louisiana and likely led to reduced access in other states.

The law considered in the case, June Medical Services v. Russo, was nearly identical to a Texas statute the high court considered in 2016. That case, Whole Woman's Health v. Hellerstedt, also dealt with an admitting privileges requirement. Legal scholars warned that despite this precedent from only four years prior, the decision might have been different this time since President Donald Trump’s appointments to the court of Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, both conservatives. Kavanaugh replaced Justice Anthony Kennedy, who wrote the decision striking down the Texas law.

The court’s liberal bloc—Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan—voted together to strike down the law, with Breyer writing that “enforcing the admitting-privileges requirement would drastically reduce the number and geographic distribution of abortion providers, making it impossible for many women to obtain a safe, legal abortion in the state and imposing substantial obstacles on those who could.”

Chief Justice John Roberts, who was considered the swing vote on this case, wrote a concurring opinion that focused solely on the recent legal precedent provided by the 2016 case, arguing that the Louisiana law imposes a burden on women seeking abortions “just as severe” as the Texas law for the same reasons and, therefore, “the result in this case is controlled by our decision four years ago invalidating a nearly identical Texas law.” He further noted that “he joined the dissent in Whole Woman’s Health and continue[s] to believe that the case was wrongly decided,” but emphasized that the current case was too similar to the one in 2016.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Jesus Christ, mac ... I haven't even looked at your no-doubt-stupid post, but the title alone reinforces our conclusion made years ago that forums serve only one purpose for you: stir up the porta potty, add still more shit to it, and pour it into the parking lot to see how much trouble and hatred you can generate among a group who should be friends.

You should try windsurfing some time. It's a ton of fun and might even mellow you out, if that's possible. I appreciate a person's love of debate, but what you do is not debate; it's just verbal rioting. You should try actual debate some time. It's a ton of fun and might even mellow you out, if that's possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

72 days on the water, and Isobars just made a fool of himself--again. Irony is lost on the right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abortion is murder.
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J64TWB



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No abortion is abortion. Murder is murder. Abortion is not murder and murder is not abortion. Get your terminology straight.
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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's how the deplorables rationalize their fundamental selfishness.
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vientomas



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpbassman wrote:
Abortion is murder.


Not according to state laws, federal laws or the Supreme Court. I guess you are not one of those "law and order" people...
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J64TWB



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abortion is an outpatient medical procedure usually done in the First 4-6 weeks of pregnancy. The patient may return home that day to watch the latest episode of Rape and Sexual assault in America, or the latest Fox News sexual assault story.

Murder is something highly illegal which usually involves blowing someone’s head of with a shotgun, stabbing, hanging or blugeoning. It is typically very violent and cant be done to oneself like a medical procedure.

Murder will send you to the pokey house, the slammer, the pen, the big house. It will send you up the river without a paddle. Possibly for life, unless they decide to murder you too. The food is disgusting, soap can be very slippery. You cannot go home that day to watch television JP.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J64TWB wrote:
No abortion is abortion. Murder is murder. Abortion is not murder and murder is not abortion. Get your terminology straight.


It's called abortion because you are aborting a life... I have mixed feeling about abortion but always find it amusing how the left are so passionate about the right to take a life..
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vientomas



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
J64TWB wrote:
No abortion is abortion. Murder is murder. Abortion is not murder and murder is not abortion. Get your terminology straight.


It's called abortion because you are aborting a life... I have mixed feeling about abortion but always find it amusing how the left are so passionate about the right to take a life..


And the right loves capital punishment.
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