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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hysterical.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
You may not be able to stomach the best president in history, because many can't but 3 Nobel peace prize nominations, peace in the middle east NKorea sending best wishes, abortion, cleanest air and water in decades should easily put you over the top.

And jobs
and
a strong military
and
climate sensibility
and
frequent backing by the Supremes
and
reversal of thousands of harmful wild-ass liberal executive orders and trade agreements
and
backing up all 50 states who had been directed by President Bush to restock on PPE for the next epidemic
and
calling out the fake news media for being 100% in the left's tank and
trying to make them, one by one, more aware of their extremism
and
answering thousands of media questions without a teleprompter
and
slowing down the illegal immigration invasion
and
standing tall against the socialist and fascist extremists pulling poor Joe Biden's strings
and
NOT saying half of what he has been accused of saying
and
on
and
on
and
on, for pages and pages and pages.

I recognize that religion and its dogma help billions of individuals in many ways, but believe they have almost no place in running a country, a war, or in Supreme Court decisions, let alone choosing a president. (No one denies, for example, that JFK was a more rampant horndog than Bill Clinton.) If nothing else, thumping one bible asserts that all other forms of religion are wrong. Tell that to the billions of people who have a different religion or none at all, and don't tell us any religion is anywhere nearly perfect.


trump is a admitted sexual abuser and only iLL-legitimate president that had a child rape case filed in court against him.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually feel a lil bit sorry for Isoangry. I suspect he will go out embittered. That's sad.
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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There a point where cruelty eliminates any chance for sympathy. I have a grandson with disabilities. No matter what made Trump so crazy, I will never forgive him for making fun of a disabled reporter. The same goes for those who would hold their nose and vote for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justall wrote:
I am empathetic with your view and thought through your question etc...........

Thanks for your thoughts. I will respond when I have time.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justall wrote:
.....to conclude Biden is hypocritical, I think it also requires the assumption that he himself believes his actions will directly cause deaths. But, I’m not so sure he believes that, as he is not the person choosing to have/perform an abortion.
Would you have similar sympathy for a powerful politician who knew that honor killings are murder, but wouldn't take any action, and indeed eased the way for such activity, because a large percentage of the electorate didn't agree? After all, the politician wasn't the one actually bludgeoning the victims was he?

justall wrote:
My own scoring system takes a broader view of the most important commandment to “love God and thy neighbor”.
That commandment does not extend to supporting one's neighbor's right to kill each other if they are OK with that.

I agree that there is a lot of anger in the country. However, to put all that at the feet of Trump is disingenuous. From the moment he was elected, mobs were in the streets in violent demonstrations, and attempts to undo the results of the election have been relentless with non stop accusations of malfeasance that have fizzled on closer examination. His abrasive response to that campaign may be distasteful, but is not entirely surprising.

That for some of us is the dilemma. On the one hand we have Trump who constantly precipitates discontent and anger, yet has kept many of his campaign promises and has achieved a good number of things with which I agree. On the other side we have Biden, who has been resoundingly rejected by Democrat voters in prior Presidential efforts, has few achievements of note over his half century tenure, and has shown that he is prepared to abandon his principles in pursuit of political advancement. Abortion is just one item; the clear conflicts with regard to his son's enrichment is another egregious example. More alarming is the prospect of Harris, who was also resoundingly rejected as a Presidential candidate by Democrat voters, yet has a real chance of assuming the office during a Biden Presidency. The final nail is the large parts of their campaign promises which are pie in the sky nonsense pandering to special interest groups.

To return to your original post, perhaps it would be worth the pain of a Biden Presidency to restore some calm to the country.........but is that just giving into the name calling, scheming political mob? I know I won't vote for Biden, but, but given that an abstention would favor Biden, I'm still undecided on Trump.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The final nail is the large parts of their campaign promises which are pie in the sky nonsense pandering to special interest groups."


Actually, this statement aptly characterizes Donald Trump's campaign, but I guess a lot depends on the special interest groups pandered to, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...."the pain of a Biden presidency".. I love it. Already assuming the worst. We really don't know where it will go, we rarely do. Many in my industry were 100% wrong predicting the markets performance with Obama, and Trump. And many people want a president who will be more of a baseball manager--put your 9 best on the field and see what happens--that describes me. The idea that a president has to be some sort of messianic leader, with all his or her followers praising every move or achievement, is not for all. Sleepy Joe could be just what the doctor ordered in this time of insane political tribalism...the one thing he's consistently known for is bridging divides among political adversaries.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fear? Fear of the insane.
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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgybe wrote:
justall wrote:
.....to conclude Biden is hypocritical, I think it also requires the assumption that he himself believes his actions will directly cause deaths. But, I’m not so sure he believes that, as he is not the person choosing to have/perform an abortion.
Would you have similar sympathy for a powerful politician who knew that honor killings are murder, but wouldn't take any action, and indeed eased the way for such activity, because a large percentage of the electorate didn't agree? After all, the politician wasn't the one actually bludgeoning the victims was he?

justall wrote:
My own scoring system takes a broader view of the most important commandment to “love God and thy neighbor”.
That commandment does not extend to supporting one's neighbor's right to kill each other if they are OK with that.

I agree that there is a lot of anger in the country. However, to put all that at the feet of Trump is disingenuous. From the moment he was elected, mobs were in the streets in violent demonstrations, and attempts to undo the results of the election have been relentless with non stop accusations of malfeasance that have fizzled on closer examination. His abrasive response to that campaign may be distasteful, but is not entirely surprising.

That for some of us is the dilemma. On the one hand we have Trump who constantly precipitates discontent and anger, yet has kept many of his campaign promises and has achieved a good number of things with which I agree. On the other side we have Biden, who has been resoundingly rejected by Democrat voters in prior Presidential efforts, has few achievements of note over his half century tenure, and has shown that he is prepared to abandon his principles in pursuit of political advancement. Abortion is just one item; the clear conflicts with regard to his son's enrichment is another egregious example. More alarming is the prospect of Harris, who was also resoundingly rejected as a Presidential candidate by Democrat voters, yet has a real chance of assuming the office during a Biden Presidency. The final nail is the large parts of their campaign promises which are pie in the sky nonsense pandering to special interest groups.

To return to your original post, perhaps it would be worth the pain of a Biden Presidency to restore some calm to the country.........but is that just giving into the name calling, scheming political mob? I know I won't vote for Biden, but, but given that an abstention would favor Biden, I'm still undecided on Trump.


Fortunately, mrgybe’s vote will be well diluted.
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