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dvCali



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:48 pm    Post subject: ... and Windfoil is in the Olympics Reply with quote

Big change! probably for the best: https://www.windfoilzone.com/single-post/Windfoiling-for-2024-Olympics
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wsatl



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot less controversial here than other countries. Very Happy

Then again, 98% of US windsurfers have never seen an RS:X in the flesh.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wsatl wrote:
A lot less controversial here than other countries. Very Happy

Then again, 98% of US windsurfers have never seen an RS:X in the flesh.


Or had the unfortunate luck of trying to carry one. Very Happy

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konajoe



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The windsurfing world missed their best shot of reviving the sport. Windsurfer LT would have given a chance for a revival.
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dvCali



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coachg wrote:
wsatl wrote:
A lot less controversial here than other countries. Very Happy

Then again, 98% of US windsurfers have never seen an RS:X in the flesh.


Or had the unfortunate luck of trying to carry one. Very Happy

Coachg

It is (was) a bulky beast from the specs! (17 Kg ready to go Shocked )
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boardsurfr



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konajoe wrote:
The windsurfing world missed their best shot of reviving the sport. Windsurfer LT would have given a chance for a revival.

I very much doubt that. I was at a couple of light wind race events in the last few weeks. At the first one, it was 4 longboarders vs. 10 foilers. A few foilers chose to slog in sub-10 mph wind rather than take the longboard from the car that they had used in previous years.

At the second event, there were 3 longboards, 2 or 3 SUPs, and about 10-15 shortboards. This race actually included one Windsurfer LT, but it was a rental from the local shop (the closed thing to a raceboard they had). No foils were allowed, mostly due to shallow water.

Bottom line: strong interest in foil racing, even from former longboarders; very little interest in the Windsurfer LT. As much as I like the idea behind the LT, I can't see myself spending > $1000 to switch from my Mistral Equipe 2 (or even the F2 Lightning) to a slower board.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the LT was any less interesting it would be flat water SUP racing Mr. Green

Foiling is exactly where windsurfing is headed for tactical course racing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grantmac017 wrote:

Foiling is exactly where windsurfing is headed for tactical course racing.


I'm not sure what you mean by tactical. Tactical boat racing happens when the vessel is very easy to tack and jibe, and when the act of doing so loses very little ground. Advantages can then be gained by tacking and jibing on the smallest of wind shifts.

Foiling boards will almost completely eliminate tactics. I'll bet that race winners will be starting on port and single tacking to the windward mark.
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bred2shred



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konajoe wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by tactical. Tactical boat racing happens when the vessel is very easy to tack and jibe, and when the act of doing so loses very little ground. Advantages can then be gained by tacking and jibing on the smallest of wind shifts


No less tactical than beach cat racing (NACRA 17) which also lose ground during tacks. There can still be gains upwind tacking if the shift or pressure is significant enough. Also, much of the upwind tactics you mention (tacking on small shifts without loss of ground) is replaced by downwind tactics - sailing at 90 degrees apparent and gybing on the shifts - something that “traditional” sailboats don’t do (the downwind leg is a parade).

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foils can gain a lot of ground in the tack and even more in the gybe. Plus you can actually win on the downwind leg rather than just having the potential to lose (to be fair this also happens).
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