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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
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MalibuGuru wrote:
You didn't watch it. real human is not curious


troll post going McVeigh again over me posting the facts about your racist hero.... hahahaha I win when you take yourguns and go shootup another church.

What a complete heartless, ignorant DICK!!!!
Laughs and calls himself a winner when people die.
Your mom should have aborted you.


Moron I did not die the attack was on me.... the trolling was against me you stupid F. again your IQ is below 30 yo low to no level non thinker.


awe so I am right your heroes are church shooters, McVeigh bombers, KKK lynchers, trump for seperating children from parents to do harm and you cheer that shiiite on. . People that explode over the facts. Again McVeigh and these wackos are heros to many of the right wing.

Again I win when I get you to McVeigh on a forum over facts.... As I call it for breaking the laws and rules trying to allow harn to come to me...
Intenetionally... IE McVeighing, church shooting, lynching a black, putting a child in a cage, all the things right wingers do and are known for and repeat because you are such victims... Just because facts are posted that counter your lies and hate.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

groups like Bannons...


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http://rightwingnews.com/interviews/anncoulter.php
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John Hawkins: You've caught a lot of heat for a couple of quotes you made. In your column three days after 9/11, you said, "We know who the homicidal maniacs are.They are the ones cheering and dancing right now. We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." You also said in an interview with the New York Observer, "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building." Do you stand by those quotes or do you think that perhaps you should have phrased them differently?
Ann Coulter: Ozzy Osbourne has his bats, and I have that darn "convert them to Christianity" quote. (Thank you for giving the full quote. I have the touch, don't I?) Some may not like what I said, but I'm still waiting to hear a better suggestion.
RE: McVeigh quote. Of course I regret it. I should have added, "after everyone had left the building except the editors and reporters."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,26984,00.html

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > WORLD > NATIONAL Hate Groups: McVeigh Is a Hero
Monday, June 11, 2001
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NEW YORK — One hate site proclaimed "Timothy James McVeigh Day," while white supremacists flooded online discussion forums Monday with messages proclaiming the Oklahoma City bomber a hero. …..
On the other hand, forums frequented by militia groups were less supportive of McVeigh even though they agreed with his anti-government stance. Mayo said those groups tended to view McVeigh's choice of target as harmful to their cause.

http://main.uab.edu/show.asp?durki=38850
McVeigh No “Patsy”
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An April 4 Reuters news wire article quoted several experts on right-wing anti-government groups. Those experts claimed some groups view convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh not as a hero, but a “patsy” who undermined them. But UAB terrorism expert Brent Smith, Ph.D., author of the 1994 book “Terrorism in America: Pipe Bombs and Pipe Dreams,” disagrees, saying that most anti-government extremists view McVeigh as a hero and a martyr. ”They see him as a guy who carried out the most proficient terrorist act of all time. To the true believers, McVeigh is a hero. The real dangerous extremists are more rational than to believe that McVeigh is a “patsy.” Smith said McVeigh’s execution date, May 19, will become a key date for the anti-government movement.

Contact Gail Short, Media Relations (205) 934-8931 or gshort@uab.edu.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_p...um/1378651.stm


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A then a big part of it was that he really fights for gun rights and he believes that everyone should have the right to own guns and when he felt the US Government was trying to take that away from him he snapped and he decided he was going to take action against our government.

He doesn't use the term martyr but he has told us that he considers himself a freedom fighter - he said one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

http://www.truthandviews.com/crimelaw/3.html

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The McVeigh's execution will make him a victim and a hero in eyes of many Americans


http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/mc...azettepoem.htm
Poem praises McVeigh
Denise Marmo
Niagara Gazette
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LOCKPORT - They're few, but they are out there.

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Several letters sent recently to the Union-Sun & Journal including a flyer received Friday from a group called the "Erulian Brotherhood" - show that Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh has support from some people for both his anti-government sentiments and his violent action.
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"They may kill the Revolutionary but not the Revolution,"
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In 1996, militia activity peaked with 858 known groups, Potok said. That growth was in part due to McVeigh, Potok said, because militia groups blamed the blast on the government, claiming the tragedy was a ploy to push the American public to accept strong laws curtailing freedom.
"It grew spectacularly right after the bombing," Potok said. "Oklahoma City became another Waco."
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"There was and is only one viable option left in America to right the wrongs of government and Timothy McVeigh was the only one man enough to attempt it," the letter continues. "If his killing of the innocent is repugnant, then what can be said of all the American pilots who killed over 3 million civilians, in the last 60 years and received medals for it?"

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/mcveigh/default.htm

http://eyeonhate.com/mcveigh/mcveigh6.html

http://www.solargeneral.com/library/mcveigh.htm

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McVeigh recalls that he was in the middle of draining the oil, listening to a talk-radio host expounding on the standoff at Waco, when suddenly a voice hollered from the farmhouse. Someone came running outside, screaming, "Tim! Tim! Get in here! It's on fire!"
http://www.albionmonitor.com/0105b/mcveigh.html

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Who started the whispering? The John Birch Society takes some of the blame, with its long-running demands that the UN and IRS be dismantled. But the Birchers had ample help from the forefathers of Rush Limbaugh. Billionaire H.L. Hunt's daily Life Line broadcasts were heard by millions in the early 1960s, joining dozens of other radio ministers and right-wing commentators warning that the Reds were infiltrating America, laying the groundwork for our inevitable enslavement at the hands of foreigners.
http://www.angrywhitefemale.net/mcveigh.html

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The FCC-dependent media, the government (and the lemmings they lead) need to have someone to scapegoat for the actions of one frustrated former U.S. soldier. Hence, anyone to the right of Joseph Stalin is suspect, a potential terrorist (or "rebel," depending on your relationship with the U.S. government). Are these people really "paranoid conspiracy theorists"? Hardly, but I do believe the government and their lapdog media are.
http://www.albionmonitor.com/0105b/mcveigh.html

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As McVeigh hopped from gun show to gun show, he probably was always within range of an AM station broadcasting someone like Liddy or Baker. And wherever he was, he carried a portable shortwave which he listened to most nights. The content of these programs were even more radical. The nightly "Intelligence Report" by Michigan Militia spokesman Mark Koernke on Nashville-based Worldwide Christian Radio (WWCR) was essential listening for anyone truly worried about New World Order conspiracies: Here were the latest black helicopter sightings, or rumors of suspicious troop movements. Koernke was also travelling around the country, appearing at "Preparedness Expos." (McVeigh reportedly acted as his bodyguard during a Florida visit.)
https://secure.mediaresearch.org/new...51101stud.html

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The Oklahoma City tragedy led the President on April 24 to denounce "promoters of paranoia" on the "airwaves." Peter Jennings relayed: "Clinton did not say so specifically but he clearly had the words of many ultra-conservative talk radio hosts in mind. All you have to do is listen to some of them to hear how they react to those with whom they do not agree."
Jackie Judd blurred regular commercial hosts with shortwave broadcaster, Mark Koernke, whose violent rhetoric attracted Timothy McVeigh, the accused bomber. Judd summed up the medium: "On talk radio shows today across the country, it was a free-for-all of anger and fingerpointing. In Detroit, a caller actually claimed the administration benefited from all this...Talk show host G. Gordon Liddy advised listeners to shoot first and ask questions later...Liddy, one of radio's most militant hosts, said even in the
aftermath of Oklahoma, he has no responsibility to cool the rhetoric." Judd did not explain that Liddy meant shooting in self-defense.
This is a very good 72 page read, not a fan of annaberg he is a son of a b…. But it does discuss does talk radio cause the angry white men to to things like violence.

http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycent...%20radio%22%22

G Gordon Liddy Head shots kill the sons of *****es. ATF


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Colorado Srings talk show host Don Baker urged listeners to take their guns to Washington to protest the assult weapons ban. Francisco Duran of Colorado Springs

http://www.democraticunderground.com...08_poster.html

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What we see in McVeigh is the product of the gun/militia subculture that tells its adherents that the government and all conventional sources of information are telling lies designed to enslave them. Religious cults use the same technique with some success. Groups like this will tell their people to rely only certain sources of information – the group itself is, of course, one of the few truthtellers. The gun subculture has venues that religious cults never enjoyed, however - talk radio and the Internet (although McVeigh himself probably made little or no use of the 'Net). McVeigh is basically an even more frightening version of the Columbine killers, hearing only voices that reinforce his fears and coldly plotting to do away with imaginary villains.
http://www.apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD/08-...on.cgi.49.html

Militia leader killed, deputy wounded during attemped arrest

Associated Press/The Arizona Republic Nov. 06, 2001 12:20:00


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EAGAR - A national leader of the militia movement has been killed and an Apache County sheriff's deputy wounded in a shootout, authorities said.

William Milton Cooper, 58, of Eager, had hosted a talk show broadcast on the Worldwide Christian Radio out of Nashville, which receives it via phone from his home in St. Johns. He had millions of He had millions of listeners worldwide, including Timothy McVeigh.list

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...3b723e7132696e
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Timothy McVeigh was also a hero and a martyr as well. No matter WHAT
the government did to Koresh and Randy Weaver Timothy more than made
up for it - in spades. I was laughing my *** off to see all the
employees at that building come out and wonder for the TV cameras how
such a thing could be done. "We have a nursery for children here," is
what some of the government sheeple had to say. Well, David Koresh
and Randy Weaver both had nurseries at THEIR residents, but you didn't
hear those guvmint sheeple have any complaints about what happened to
David and his followers OR the things that happened to Randy Weaver.
Yes...EVERY SINGLE death of law puppies and their families was well
deserved that infamous day in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. It is just a
pity there were not many more. The childen at the nursery were not
innocent either - they were co-conspirators with their parents!
http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/her...ns/part5.shtml

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McVeigh has ties to the Michigan Militia Corps, one of maybe thirty such fringe groups infesting the heartland of our country. They are militant, paranoiac, largely racist gatherings of men and women who have chosen to forego the political process and instead prepare for war against the government. They arm themselves with assault weapons and moralize violence. They are the listeners of right-wing hatemongers like Gritz and G. Gordon Liddy.

The militias and their broadcast gurus are already inventing implausible conspiracy theories which have the federal government as mad bomber in a plot to orchestrate an all-out attack on their organizations. Days after the bombing, while determined rescuers continue to search for survivors, Liddy is advising his listeners how to shoot federal agents.

The absurdness of such delusions is of damn small comfort to me when I look at a Newsweek map tracing these groups. There are swastikas, letters, circles, and squares symbolizing the nearness of Neo-Nazi organizations, the Klan, Skinheads, and others to the county in which I live. The headquarters of the Michigan Militia Corps, which kindled McVeigh's violence, is a too-short five-hour drive from my home.

Homegrown terrorists like McVeigh communicate with others of their ilk via various computer bulletin boards. They trade their bomb recipes and their conspiracy theories. Today, some of these psychopaths are calling McVeigh a "hero."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=23187
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McVeigh was no strategist and he was no "soldier's soldier." He was a traitor and a baby-killer. He has admitted the whole thing. Those of you in the patriot movement who look up to McVeigh, or attempt to apologize for him, should rethink your position. He is not your hero. His bloody argument is not something you want to associate yourselves with. A man who resolves everything into violence, who sees his solution in bombs and guns, is more beast than man. Citizen terrorist McVeigh lost the thread of humanity which binds us, as Americans, to unity under imperfect republican institutions.

For those, like Randy Weaver, who consider McVeigh to be a POW, it is only fair to respond that McVeigh's war was not only against the government but against innocent Americans. For those patriots who consider Clinton's bombing of Serbia as a war crime, then McVeigh's bombing must also

righty in training... his entire life a true and true righty...
http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=3740



http://hnn.us/articles/139.html

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We do not need to deify John Brown to understand his moral and political significance. But, the comparison to McVeigh makes no sense at all. Moreover, one suspects that the desire of those who make the comparison is to somehow wrap McVeigh in the moral righteousness of Brown's opposition to slavery (however one might feel about his tactics), rather than to see McVeigh for what he was: a stone cold killer, willing to take life indiscriminately because of some strange and pathetic notion of political reality he had come to believe.
really from idaho?
http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/mc...azettepoem.htm
Denise Marmo

Niagara Gazette

LOCKPORT - They're few, but they are out there.

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Several letters sent recently to the Union-Sun & Journal including a flyer received Friday from a group called the "Erulian Brotherhood" - show that Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh has support from some people for both his anti-government sentiments and his violent action.

McVeigh, convicted of killing 168 people when he destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995, awaits a June 11 execution at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Ind. Prior to the bombing, Pendleton native McVeigh and his sister, Jennifer, used the US&J's opinion page to promote their views and criticize the government for its actions, including the 1993 siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas.

The photocopied Erulian Brotherhood flyer, with a postmark from Pocatello, Idaho, contains an ode titled, "Hail Tim McVeigh!" and is illustrated with a drawing of a fully masked man holding an automatic assault weapon. A tag line, "They may kill the Revolutionary but not the Revolution," runs across the bottom of the document.

Paul Moskal, a special agent based in the FBI's Buffalo office, said the group likely poses little threat. After seeing a copy of the flyer, Moskal said the FBI "wouldn't have a profession


http://main.uab.edu/show.asp?durki=38850

McVeigh No “Patsy”
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An April 4 Reuters news wire article quoted several experts on right-wing anti-government groups. Those experts claimed some groups view convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh not as a hero, but a “patsy” who undermined them. But UAB terrorism expert Brent Smith, Ph.D., author of the 1994 book “Terrorism in America: Pipe Bombs and Pipe Dreams,” disagrees, saying that most anti-government extremists view McVeigh as a hero and a martyr. ”They see him as a guy who carried out the most proficient terrorist act of all time. To the true believers, McVeigh is a hero. The real dangerous extremists are more rational than to believe that McVeigh is a “patsy.” Smith said McVeigh’s execution date, May 19, will become a key date for the anti-government movement. Contact Gail Short, Media Relations (205) 934-8931 or gshort@uab.edu.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Wow
your party your heros,

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531


https://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/10/11/editor-lists-all-women-said-president-trump-sexually-assaulted-them
https://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/rapequotes.asp
https://splinternews.com/here-are-all-the-times-donald-trump-has-been-accused-of-1793860459

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According to the suit, Trump tied her to a bed, exposed himself to her and then raped her in a "savage sexual attack." Doe says she screamed for him to stop at which point he struck her in the face while screaming "that he would do whatever he wanted." In a statement filed with the lawsuit, Doe says Trump threatened to ruin her life and her family's life if she ever told anyone about the incident:

here is the 13 year olds suit, that no major media put front page...

again this girl was 13 years old when trump did this. I say did this because he never filed a response in court and said he would sue all these females and he has not. so he is a liar again. and I say since he has the money and the biggest suer on earth, and this is the most severe accusation with witnesses to back it up at his friends home who has been convicted of raping children and at least 30-60 settlements, who has all of trumps personal numbers to doorman and so on, and trump lied and later said he did not know the serial pedophile Jeffy epstien. Well trump did not remember he was in photos with him, in interviews praising his good friends and in a government raid on the pedophile found all trumps personal numbers.

When is the major media going to cover it?
New u to datehttp://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-why-does-mueller-think-he-s-above-testifying-62227525668

also epstein caught with fake passport and more

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-why-does-mueller-think-he-s-above-testifying-62227525668

Newly-found footage shows Trump, Epstein at a '92 party
https://news.yahoo.com/jeffrey-epstein-dodged-questions-sex-012218075.html
Note this is scum attn general Barrs father that hired Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein Dodged Questions About Sex With His Dalton Prep-School Students


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/7/8/1870274/-So-remember-that-2018-BBC-documentary-alleging-Trump-preyed-on-underage-models?detail=emaildkre

So remember that 2018 BBC documentary alleging Trump preyed on underage models?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/9/1877768/-Epstein-docs-unsealed-so-much-trafficked-sex?utm_campaign=trending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-uysS6Tlw

Epstein Stories You Won't Find in the News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBQ2XJj8hr4

Escaping NXIVM: Behind the investigation of the alleged sex cult
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/11/1878247/-Court-Flight-Logs-Released-yesterday-show-that-Trump-accompanied-Epstein-to-his-private-sex-slave?utm_campaign=trending

Court Flight Logs Released yesterday show that Trump accompanied Epstein to his private sex slave
Alexander Acosta, Trump’s Labor Secretary, Broke the Law in Jeffrey Epstein Case: Judge
https://www.thedailybeast.com/alexander-acosta-trumps-labor-secretary-broke-the-law-in-jeffrey-epstein-case-judge

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hadn't seen this before
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