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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
For all the political Left’s shrieks about a so-called “War on women” and a systemic “rape culture” pervasive throughout American society, the reality that some 8 in 10 women and girls are sexually assaulted during the dangerous trek from Mexico and South America to the U.S. southern border is met mostly with silence.



Mac would rather see little girls and boys cross the border with sex traffickers, than be kept until proper determination has been made.

Trump will forever be known as the first President in U.S. history to back up his promise to fix the broken border.. Thank you DJT...

mac likes little boys and someone to mow his lawn....
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until there's comprehensive immigration reform, nothing is "fixed"... Sorry, that's the truth.
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
Until there's comprehensive immigration reform, nothing is "fixed"... Sorry, that's the truth.


Why? What if 99% of immigrants came through legally? Without reform. Just respected our laws. We wouldn't need reform.
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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
For all the political Left’s shrieks about a so-called “War on women” and a systemic “rape culture” pervasive throughout American society, the reality that some 8 in 10 women and girls are sexually assaulted during the dangerous trek from Mexico and South America to the U.S. southern border is met mostly with silence.



Mac would rather see little girls and boys cross the border with sex traffickers, than be kept until proper determination has been made.

Trump will forever be known as the first President in U.S. history to back up his promise to fix the broken border.. Thank you DJT...

mac likes little boys and someone to mow his lawn....


Matty the bigot is incapable of making an argument—so he uses slurs. Matty the punk would only call me these names from 3000 miles away. Punk.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the border patrol, 30% of illegal aliens already had criminal records, and they've been separating kids from "parents" for decades until said "parents" can show documented proof the kids are their own rather than victims of kidnappers/traffickers/pimps/etc.

Source: the recently retired BP chief.
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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I’m guessing this nonsense was ginned up by Fox to divert from Trump backing away from his original proposal to deport those here for medical purposes. The Trump proposal, which doesn’t involve “illegals” would have sent many to their deaths. Of course, it’s necessary to kill sick people to protect our borders, eh? https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/13/uscis-memo-deportations-undocumented-immigrants-1494616

Trump and his little fascist Stephen Miller lost another one, and seemed surprised that Congress members would try to protect sick people living in their districts from certain death at the hands of the Trump administration.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/trump-administration-medical-deferred-action-backtracks
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
So I’m guessing this nonsense was ginned up by Fox to divert from Trump backing away from his original proposal to deport those here for medical purposes. The Trump proposal, which doesn’t involve “illegals” would have sent many to their deaths. Of course, it’s necessary to kill sick people to protect our borders, eh? https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/13/uscis-memo-deportations-undocumented-immigrants-1494616

Trump and his little fascist Stephen Miller lost another one, and seemed surprised that Congress members would try to protect sick people living in their districts from certain death at the hands of the Trump administration.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/trump-administration-medical-deferred-action-backtracks


Don't they have great single payer health care FOR FREE in their own countries?
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techno900



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggs said:
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Until there's comprehensive immigration reform, nothing is "fixed"... Sorry, that's the truth.

There can't/wont be "comprehensive immigration reform" without first having meaningful control of who and how people cross our borders.

What do you think would happen at the border if all current illegals are made legal with a pathway to citizenship? Right now, there is no down side of illegally crossing the border, if you get caught and just claim asylum.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
Until there's comprehensive immigration reform, nothing is "fixed"... Sorry, that's the truth.


Why? What if 99% of immigrants came through legally? Without reform. Just respected our laws. We wouldn't need reform.


Because there are millions of undocumented here already. And there is NO penalty for US businesses hiring them. So....... the incentive remains, and we are stuck in neutral... that's why.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
boggs said:
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Until there's comprehensive immigration reform, nothing is "fixed"... Sorry, that's the truth.

There can't/wont be "comprehensive immigration reform" without first having meaningful control of who and how people cross our borders.

What do you think would happen at the border if all current illegals are made legal with a pathway to citizenship? Right now, there is no down side of illegally crossing the border, if you get caught and just claim asylum.


Disagree. With 535 elected representatives, and a $4TRILLION budget, I would think the US GOVT can walk and chew gum at the same time. Comprehensive reform would obviously include a deep dive into asylum, incentives, and a more secure border.
Techno , unfortunately due to your verbiage , it appears you've been brainwashed to believe we cant achieve a broader goal... Probably why Trump has not attempted any measures other than to deter border crossings.
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