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techno900



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The False Choice Between Jailing Children and Separating Families

6-12-18 Candice Bernd

The Trump administration is giving Congress an ultimatum: overturn legal limits on the incarceration of children and expand family detention, or the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) will continue to separate families who illegally cross the border.

The administration is asking Congress to roll back protections for migrant children in immigration laws to allow DHS officials to more easily jail and deport them. The changes would also make it more difficult for children to pursue asylum.

Moreover, White House officials are blaming Democrats for an increase in migrants at the border, saying their refusal to spend more on border security has given immigrants fleeing Central America incentives to enter the US without permission. “The current immigration and border crisis … are the exclusive product of loopholes in federal immigration law that Democrats refuse to close,” Stephen Miller, the president’s top adviser on immigration policy, told reporters last month.

This isn’t the first time the White House has tried to reverse protections in order to lock up more families. Facing a much more drastic surge of unaccompanied children and families in 2014, the Obama administration proposed some of the same changes, relying heavily on jailing families over releasing them with a court date.

But the administration was forced to scale the practice back, releasing thousands of families after a federal court ruled in 2015 that jailing children (even with parents) for longer than 20 days violated the 1997 Flores agreement, a court settlement resulting from a previous legal challenge to government’s practice of incarcerating children.

Now, the Trump administration is pressuring Democrats to overturn the Flores agreement so the White House can again ramp up family detention. Without family jails, the Trump administration contends that its hands are tied, and must separate families so that the adults can be jailed and prosecuted under the Justice Department’s new “zero-tolerance” policy.
Not only is there no statute mandating that the government criminally charge families who cross the border without permission, there have long been alternatives to both separating families and placing them together in immigrant jails.


Yes, there are alternatives that the left would like, but that basically allows the release of families, hoping they return for future hearings. How many will actually return?

No one in the left leaning media places any blame on the adults/parents that drag their children across the boarder knowing the consequences of violating US law. The kids are pawns and the parents are to blame, and the left is falling pray to the scheme.
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Astonishing. They proudly repeat the lies.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty remarkable we've gotten to a place where children are referred to as "pawns"... I guess we now live in a Fortnite society, where all senses, and common decency be damned....
Techno...why don't you go read the "Grapes of Wrath" by John Steinbeck...just to get a sense of human desperation, and hopelessness...and what one will do to feed their family, and make for a better life....
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Political theater, that's all this is. The Dems think they can ride this wave till November but as usual they are clueless about the pulse of the people.
The Russia BS has been a bust, Stormy and her scum lawyer are forgotten and all their other pathetic attempts have come up woefully short. So in typical liberal fashion it's now THE CHILDREN, THE CHILDERN!!!!

People want border control and Trump is delivering...ANOTHER PROMISE KEPT and exactly why he will win a second term...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matty...everything for you is political theater...It's like a football game. This is real life for many, and I know Trump winning a second term is what you live for, but for many people in the country, it is not.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Astonishing. They proudly repeat the lies.



How about the EPIC lie by Obama that he was deporting more illegals than anyone else. In fact he was only handing them orders to appear in court at a later date and then labeled DEPORTED by team scum.
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nw30



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how you never hear about the American families being torn apart in this country everyday by child services, kids crying being taken away to live someplace else.

'Yeah but the parents did something against the law that put the children at risk!'

So did the illegal immigrant parents, if, they are really their parents, in some cases they aren't.

This faux outrage will die down like the other ones do, next week or so, it will probably be onto something new.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW...why is that "funny"? I guess everyone has a different sense of humor...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
NW...why is that "funny"? I guess everyone has a different sense of humor...

Faking being stupid again to try to make a point? That always works.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
NW...why is that "funny"? I guess everyone has a different sense of humor...

Faking being stupid again to try to make a point? That always works.

No, making a mockery of your false equivalency , and lame efforts to try to be cute. If you want to start a thread about child services, go ahead, this one is about immigration....
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