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wsurfer
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mac
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As usual, Techno didn't wait for any analysis to "awfulize" about California's new housing bills. Here's something from someone who actually read the bills and talked to a few people about what the impact would be.
| Quote: | mangst@bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: September 17, 2021 at 11:29 a.m. | UPDATED: September 17, 2021 at 4:24 p.m.
Gov. Gavin Newsom this week signed a pair of bills into law that effectively put an end to traditional single-family zoning restrictions in most neighborhoods statewide.
Senate Bills 9 and 10, which take effect Jan. 1, 2022, will make it easier for Californians to build more than one housing unit on many properties that for decades have been reserved exclusively for single-family homes and will give cities greater flexibility to place small apartment complexes in neighborhoods near public transit.
Although the laws represent two new approaches toward alleviating the state’s housing crisis, experts say neither is likely to produce the number of units needed to fully resolve it.
Here are answers to some questions you may have about these new laws.
What is Senate Bill 9?
Senate Bill 9 is the most controversial of the two new laws. It allows property owners to split a single-family lot into two lots, add a second home to their lot or split their lot into two and place duplexes on each. The last option would create four housing units on a property currently limited to a single-family house.
The new law will mark a shift from current policies that allow only two large units — a stand-alone house and an accessory dwelling unit — on single-family lots, as well as an attached junior unit no larger than 500 square feet.
Under the new law, cities and counties across California will be required to approve development proposals that meet specified size and design standards.
What are the caveats?
The law is designed to create additional housing while also preserving low-income, affordable units.
A proposed project under this new law cannot result in the demolition or alteration of affordable or rent-controlled housing or market-rate housing that has been occupied by a tenant in the past three years. Properties listed as historic landmarks or those located within a historic district are off-limits for new development. Wetlands, farmland and properties at high risk of fire or flooding are also exempt.
If someone chooses to split their property in two, each new lot must be at least 1,200 square feet, according to the new law.
Any unit created as a result of the law cannot be used for short-term rentals. They must be rented for a term longer than 30 days.
Who can do this?
Homeowners or landlords can apply to upzone their properties through their local jurisdiction, but only if they plan to live on the property for a while.
Property owners must sign an affidavit stating they will occupy one of the housing units as their primary residence for at least three years after splitting their property or adding additional units.
Does this law allow for offices and new housing units on single-family properties?
No. Any new units created under SB 9 must only be used for residential purposes.
Do cities and counties have to abide by this new law?
Under SB 9, local government officials may only deny a development application if they find that the proposed project would have a “specific, adverse impact” on “public health and safety or the physical environment” and there are no feasible and satisfactory mitigation options.
Will local rules about maximum square footage, building height and parking apply?
Proposals under this new law must adhere to objective zoning and design review standards established by local cities and counties. Developments must still follow local zoning rules such as those governing height and yard size requirements.
No parking is required for additional units if the property is within a half-mile of a major public transit stop. However, a local agency can require up to one parking space per unit if there are no frequent transit stops nearby.
Will this law put a dent in California’s housing shortage?
A recent study by the Terner Center for Housing Innovation at UC Berkeley estimated that just 5.4% of the state’s current single-family lots has the potential to be developed under SB 9, making construction of up to 714,000 new housing units financially feasible. That’s only a fraction of the 3.5 million new housing units Gov. Newsom wants to see built by 2025.
What is Senate Bill 10?
Senate Bill 10 eases the process for local governments to rezone neighborhoods near mass transit or in urban areas to increase density with apartment complexes of up to 10 units per property. The new legislation also allows cities to bypass lengthy review requirements under the California Environmental Quality Act in an attempt to help reduce costs and the time it takes for projects to be approved.
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Of course, some areas in Texas have no zoning or planning requirements. That's how you get a gas station on one corner, a liquor store on another, a child care center on a third, and a church on the fourth. I've seen it in Corpus Christi. No comment about that from panicky Techno. |
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techno900
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More about soon to be bacon free Calif.
| Quote: | California’s War on Bacon Has Tempers Sizzling in Farming States
September 23, 2021 By Katy Grimes 1 Comment
From the first state in the nation to offer prison inmates an all-vegan menu, California voters passed a ballot measure in 2018 mandating more living space for veal calves, cows and pigs, and banned the confinement of egg-laying hens in cages.
Proposition 12, the Farm Animal Confinement Initiative, also set up a ban on the sale of these agricultural products in California that don’t meet the new requirements, attempting to influence how farmers in other states raise their animals.
That’s so California.
The Golden State has banned Fois Gras, sharkfin soup, plastic straws, “junk food” in schools, micro-beads in cosmetics, plastic grocery bags, Trans-fats, and now bacon? California even imposed a ban on fur products.
The rest of the country does not appreciate California’s nanny regulations as they reverberate across the land.
According to the California Department of Food and Agriculture, there are two deadlines in Proposition 12:
The first requires egg-laying hens to be housed with a minimum of 144 square inches per hen and calves raised for veal housed with a minimum of forty-three square feet per calf by January 1, 2020.
The second deadline goes into effect January 1, 2022 for egg-laying hens to be housed cage-free and breeding pigs raised with twenty-four square feet per pig.
So January 1st California will begin enforcing Prop. 12 that requires this extra space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. “National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules,” USA Today reported. “Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa.”
“America’s farmers and livestock producers have had enough of left-wing states like California imposing their radically clueless ideas on them and they’re taking their fight to Congress,” PJ Media reported.
They explain how:
“Senators Roger Marshall, M.D. (R-Kan.), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), John Cornyn (R-Texas), and Cindy Hyde-Smith, (R-Miss.) were motivated to introduce new legislation called the Exposing Agricultural Trade Suppression Act (EATS Act) in order to counter California’s Proposition 12 (Prop 12).”
“Protect the Harvest reports the congressional legislation was ‘introduced in the U.S. Senate aimed at preventing states and local governments from interfering with agricultural interstate commerce.’ The EATS Act protects agricultural producers across the country from acts like California’s Prop 12, which requires livestock producers outside of California to conform to animal housing and other standards set by radical animal rights activists under the guise of ‘public health.’”
“It shouldn’t be up to California to tell other states how they should be producing their agricultural products,” Grassley told WNAX in an interview. “California is not only being unfair to its own consumers but to producers in other states and is likely violating the U.S. Constitution with Proposition 12.”
Yahoo reported in July that bacon may actually disappear in California because pork farmers can’t retool farms very easily to provide more space for hogs.
With Californians consuming more than 15% of all pork produced in the U.S., the “ban” could drive the cost of pork way up.
“It’s no surprise other states don’t like being forced to adhere to California’s left-wing laws,” PJ Media reported. “Mississippians don’t like the idea of liberal states like California imposing their radical ideas on us or dictating how our farmers and ranchers do their jobs,” said Hyde-Smith, who serves on the Senate Agriculture Committee. “I’m sure that’s the case from coast to coast.”
This latest ban clearly is not endearing Californians to the rest of the country. One commenter said, “Enjoy your Beggin Strips!” Another commenter went even further: “Enjoy your Beyond Meat fake bacon with cat-food ingredients.”
Katy Grimes, the Editor of the California Globe, is a long-time Investigative Journalist covering the California State Capitol, and the co-author of California’s War Against Donald Trump: Who Wins? Who Loses?
This article was originally published by the California Globe. |
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boggsman1
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| Techno...did you see that California has the LOWEST Covid rate in the entire country? 50th out of 50! Pretty Nutty , huh? the County I live in is the most vaxxed in the US, and has almost zero cases, a far cry from the freedom lovers in your neck of the woods. |
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mac
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Yesiree, love that bacon and those pig shit ponds. In North Carolina, not California.  |
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techno900
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| As usual - defer to something else when you guys don't have the balls to acknowledge the nutty programs that Calif. frequently initiates. |
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swchandler
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| Is it surprising that techno's opinion piece offers nothing about why Proposition 12 directs changes in the growing environment of pigs, chickens and veal calves? No, not at all, as it's more about corporate interests and belching up a lot of negative nonsense to catch the interest of folks like himself. Given what is missing, there is little reason to argue about a decidedly biased view of things that is devoid of important facts. |
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mac
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| techno900 wrote: | | As usual - defer to something else when you guys don't have the balls to acknowledge the nutty programs that Calif. frequently initiates. |
As usual, post something from a far right source when you guys in North Carolina don't have the balls to acknowledge that pig farmers control the North Carolina legislature.
Bitching and moaning from corporate agriculture that wants to cut corners on pollution and health controls won't change the fact that the California market is huge, and they will have to play by our rules to compete in the market.
Techno--you should really get a life. |
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boggsman1
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| Techno....I'm a Californian, and I am 100% behind Prop 12. Especially the chicken spacing provision. We are not a healthy nation, and we spend $2.2TR a year on healthcare, and I'm sure you've noticed that COVID is preying on the unhealthy. So, we need to up the quality control on food production. A decade ago, there was a major bust on a cattle farm in the Central Valley. Cattle that had already died, were being slaughtered and turning into double doubles at In-N- Out burger, so the state is taking the lead(as usual)...It certainly wont happen in Mississippi or Alabama. |
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