The SUP style of foiling

grantmac017 · Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946

Good way to learn how to replace a fin box, but never going to fly even one cm.

jingebritsen · Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371

windSUP 8'11" exocet may be exactly what you want james

you are welcome to come up to central florida and demo mine.

since you are an accomplished SUP rider, i suspect 72 cm will not be too challenging for SUP alone for you.

BTW, i have yet to foil with it, as my business and wave sailing have demanded all of my time. let me know when, so i can get steve to loan us a foil.

d0uglass · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:19 am Post subject:

Hey John I- I definitely want to come up and demo your windSUP 8'11" sometime. There will be some sup races in the Melbourne / Cocoa area that will get me up there sooner or later.

I'm not in a huge hurry because at the moment I have less than zero money to spend. I think it's related to being married. Seems like my vehicles, dog, and spouse are always breaking down and requiring expensive maintenance.

joethewindsufa · Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Montréal

you know what they say ...
when vehicle, dog and spouse get to be too much for ya
get rid of the spouse Smile

brynkaufman2 · Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Posts: 383 Location: Kailua Oahu

I do not recommend the GoFoil for wind foiling.

I started with the NP Aluminum, then went to the GoFoil Maliko, and now am very satisfied with the Naish Thrust WS.

The GoFoil on my dedicated foil board had way too many spin outs. You have to remember it is not designed nor tested with pressure from a sail and the position most people ride it on the board is different from most wind foil boards.

I would have at least 1 or 2 spin outs on every run in and out. On the Naish I have a spin out perhaps once every few months. I can only remember 2 ever.

If possible, if you can pair the Naish with a board that has a track on the bottom instead of a tuttle that would be the best combination. I currently have the JP 155 foil with a tuttle and I would love to move the foil up about 1 inch because I use way too much back foot pressure in light wind or no wind.

What I mean by no wind is my goal once on a swell is to have no sail power at all and just surf it with the sail flagged out. I find this is a lot of fun, but after riding a long swell I notice my back leg becomes tired because of the needed back leg pressure.

Naish has a new board coming out that is larger than the current board which might be my solution. Currently I do not see anything else that would work in a size I like.

d0uglass · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:32 am Post subject:

Bryn, would you say the Naish Thrust WS pops up similarly early and easy to the GoFoil, but is just more controllable with less spinouts? Or is it a tradeoff? I wonder if the Naish foil would work well on the Exocet 8'11 windsup, which has the tuttle box forward of the US finbox.

brynkaufman2 · Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Posts: 383 Location: Kailua Oahu

I think the Naish pops up sooner and also at the same low speed. Probably because it does not spin out so you can actually put more sail power into it when that gust comes.

It is definitely faster and more controllable. Not only does it not spin out, but it does not have that feeling of wanting to foil out which I felt a lot with the Maliko.

For my weight of around 160 lbs. the Maliko was way too much foil.

If you notice the Naish WS foil has a rear Integrated Rudder Foil that their SUP foil does not. I believe that is why it does not spin out.

I do know of two windsurfers that like the Maliko. They are heavier and they have it located further up on a custom board, not in the very back like most wind foil tuttle boxes are. I assume this is why they did not experience the problems I had with it.

So for me there was no tradeoff, the Naish performed better for me in every way.

ittiandro · Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 294

I WONDER IF A HYDROFOIL WING ON A LONG BOARD LIKE THE WINDSUP ( 11.6 FT) DOESN'T MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE HULL TO RISE ABOVE THE WATER OR ANYWAY TO PLANE, AS COMPARED TO A SHORTER BOARD, BECAUSE THE LONGER THE BOARD THE MORE THE WEIGHT AHEAD OF THE HYDROFOIL WING?
WOULDN'T THE BOARD RISE MORE EASILY AND BE MORE BALANCED, TO BEGIN WITH, IF THE HYDROFOIL WING WAS ATTACHED MORE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE HULL, PERHAPS EVEN DIRECTLY ON THE CENTERBOARD BOX?
JUST WONDERING ..

ITTIANDRO