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| techno900 wrote: | The left is big on the HATE word, because it's their fall back word when nothing else rational will work.
I have no disdain or hate for LEGAL or even illegal immigrants. However, I am deeply concerned that with the limited control on who enters our country, we are moving toward more government dependency and money syphoning by the illegals and refugees. There will always be turmoil around the globe, and we simply can't continue be a refuge for everyone that is looking for help. Strict limits need to be set. Heartless - no, just practical. |
I am missing the love, when a person gets elected known for telling people to show their love by beating the piss out of them for their political views. and he will pay their legal fees for doing so.
I am missing the love for the trump employee that went outside of trump tower and ripped a protesters protest sign on public property out of his hands and then beat the protester.
I am just missing the love put out by the right wing entitled pussy grabbing?
Confederate flag a symbol of love,
Kkk in the party a symbol of love,
Militia a symbol of love
Gun wackos a definite symbol of love
removing a single voter from voting, a symbol of love when not one right wing state has ever shown or had one right winger testify under oath that there are more than what 10 cases a year, and from what I have seen all those were right wingers. In fact the right winger who did his love and sucker punched a black man leaving a trump rally was a convicted defense worker for voting in more than one state.
When a right wing appointed top trump Whitehouse spokesman says his love is another person sucks his ---. As an official of the US government and right wingers love it. that is just to much love for me.
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| techno900 wrote: | The left is big on the HATE word, because it's their fall back word when nothing else rational will work.
I have no disdain or hate for LEGAL or even illegal immigrants. However, I am deeply concerned that with the limited control on who enters our country, we are moving toward more government dependency and money syphoning by the illegals and refugees. There will always be turmoil around the globe, and we simply can't continue be a refuge for everyone that is looking for help. Strict limits need to be set. Heartless - no, just practical. |
Techno--you can't possibly square that comment with yesterday's press conference and Trump's support for an anti legal immigrant bill--that is going nowhere.
Stephen Miller's press conference is here:
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-aide-stephen-miller-throws-insults-ignorant-cnn-reporter-over-645772
His "cosmopolitan" comment is a an anti-Semitic dog whistle, apparently derived from Russian use.
Stephen Miller and Bannon are Brownshirts--White Nationalist bigots. Anyone that can support Trump knowing these two guys are setting policy is just not right. |
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mac said: | Quote: | | Techno--you can't possibly square that comment with yesterday's press conference and Trump's support for an anti legal immigrant bill--that is going nowhere. |
Don't we already have limits on legal immigration? Did I say that I agreed with Trumps new policy?
I am more concerned with refugees, illegals, overstaying visas, general lack of control, etc. Being more selective for legal immigration sounds like a reasonable consideration. We don't need more dependent people living off the government.
Oh, and I think your "an anti legal immigrant bill" is the usual liberal spin. What about all those that want to immigrate but never get on the list? Maybe the current policy is a "an anti legal immigrant law". |
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| techno900 wrote: | mac said: | Quote: | | Techno--you can't possibly square that comment with yesterday's press conference and Trump's support for an anti legal immigrant bill--that is going nowhere. |
Don't we already have limits on legal immigration? Did I say that I agreed with Trumps new policy?
I am more concerned with refugees, illegals, overstaying visas, general lack of control, etc. Being more selective for legal immigration sounds like a reasonable consideration. We don't need more dependent people living off the government.
Oh, and I think your "an anti legal immigrant bill" is the usual liberal spin. What about all those that want to immigrate but never get on the list? Maybe the current policy is a "an anti legal immigrant law". |
if we eliminate the red states that are the takers we would be much better off. those ared states are the problem because they are so un-educated.
how do you propose to stop overstaying people with and without visas that came here legally. many countries we do not require visas... idiot....
why be selective, as far as only allowing the rich and educated in. how has our past system not worked. again you are claiming there is a problem show us the problem that does not exist. again obama brought us to a great economy, the issue is income distribution, not immigration.
How is our immigaration policy harming america. Obama brought us Past one that is. what harms america are wall street, bankers, trust fund kids, wars for oil and minerals, chemical dumpers and so on.
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Techno either didn't watch Miller's comments or doesn't care about white nationalists in the administration. Not really surprising.
I want to see the brightest scientists, artists and doctors working in the United States--regardless of where they were born. If the current batch of so-called conservatives were at all consistent, they would see immigration as a challenge that should be met by better education and initiative. |
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the most divisive liar recent history has seen...
President’s pardon of Arpaio fits a pattern: A divider, not a uniter
| Quote: | Trump has again linked himself to the most extreme elements of the immigration debate, inflaming an already highly volatile situation.
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