Finally planed it

rtz · Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Oklahoma City

The dagger board was nice in the beginning; but I took it out once I could easily go and stay upwind. I might use it this summer in ultra light conditions.

I put the foot straps on today. The front one feels fine. The back one just seems to close to the front one and makes me feel like my feet are side by side and I don't feel like I can brace against the sail well enough or as much as I'd like.

Hopefully I'll learn to waterstart tomorrow.

I've tried the boom set both high and low and neither feels right or wrong. Is it advantageous having it really high or really low?

What about long or short harness lines?

grantmac017 · Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946

If the back doesn't feel like a stretch then it's in the wrong place.

As for the rest collar bone high and depends if you use a waist or seat harness.

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

grantmac017 · Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946

I learned to water start in a day. It was too windy for any of my sails so I borrowed one without an uphaul. Motivation is a good teacher.
To begin with you need power, more than enough to be blasting. Second you need patience.
It took longer to transfer my waterstarts to a smaller board than it did to first learn them on a big board. Larger sails oddly didn't take long.

joethewindsufa · Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Montréal

planing with a 6.5 on a 240 liter Viper seems like an odd concept to me
then again ... the Legacy is supposed to have good range and may be as powerful as my 7.0 sail
(and rtz is light)
i have planed on my MEQ2 with the 7.0
(buddy says longboard don't plane - just glide faster Smile

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for waterstarts, do most people lean the mast or boom on back of board first ?
i tend to sail large sails and getting an 8.x out of the water $%^&*((
beach starts piece o' cake
once the feet don't touch the ground , can't get sail out of the water ...
tiny sails in big winds are so much easier ...

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

PeconicPuffin · Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 1830

grantmac017 · Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946

Joe,

You simply can't lift a large sail out of the water, you need to slide it out from under. This may involve starting at the tip or you might be able to start just above the boom.
Positioning is harder with a longboard but you generally can rest the boom unless the CB gets in the way.

Unless you can watch it done from close range and many angles you will miss the subtlety of the required moves. YouTube is your friend.

GURGLETROUSERS · Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 2643

' Longboards don't plane - just glide faster!'

Whoever told you that is either yanking your chain, or is away with the men in white coats! So those who 'clock up' anything up to, or even beyond, 30 m.p.h. on a longboard are just gliding are they? ( My Kona clocked 27.3 m.p.h. with a 6 metre sail, in a high wind and lumpy sea state, before I chickened out and eased back on the loud pedal.)

In the 80's we regularly raced 240 litre longboards in ANY wind strength, including real honest to goodness gales. A 3.9 sail on a 240 litre board in such winds would leave you in no doubt what constitutes planing - though it may well bring into question the riders planing ability!!

As for water starting large multi cammed race sails with wide luff sleeves, it's not hauling yourself up on to the board which is the problem once the rig is flying, but getting the blasted thing up out of the water, especially if it falls to the wrong side and the boom sinks vertically down into the water. Can take quite some time and effort - and exhaust ones special anger range of vocabulary as all the others blast on past you!!!!!

P.S. If you want to see an expert longboarder planing hard and fast in a rough sea and high wind, check out that video of Anders, practically riding on the fin.