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montignp
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Wave sails seem much easier to come by on the used market. Will I regret building a quiver of wave sails if I'm not going to do any wave sailing in the near future? I am particularly concerned with whatever I get in the 5.5-5.8 range, as this will likely be my go-to sail. There is a 5.8 Revo for a good price locally. |
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swchandler
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at camless sails, the real difference between a wave design and a freeride design is the configuration of the sail's foot below the booms, and the number of battens. Regarding battens, it's important to note that the battens on a wave sail are much more durable overall. A larger foot on a freeride sail offers a more powerful all around sail, particularly in lighter winds. More battens tends to offer a more stable foil in higher winds, but less battens often means lighter weight and handling.
You might want to contrast the Sailworks Revo and the Retro models to better understand the differences. |
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jingebritsen
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outcast
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gvogelsang
Joined: 09 Nov 1988 Posts: 435
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:47 am Post subject: |
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montignp wrote: | Wave sails seem much easier to come by on the used market. Will I regret building a quiver of wave sails if I'm not going to do any wave sailing in the near future? I am particularly concerned with whatever I get in the 5.5-5.8 range, as this will likely be my go-to sail. There is a 5.8 Revo for a good price locally. |
At "our" weight (I weigh 205), a sail in the 5.5 - 5.8 range is going to work for you when it is pretty windy, say 19 to 25. In those conditions, ease of use is more important than all out speed, IMHO. So, a wave sail can be a good choice.
When you get bigger, say 6.5 and 7.5, a speedier freeride or free race sail is probably a better bet for speed and earlier planing. |
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montignp
Joined: 24 Aug 2015 Posts: 40
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like I may be in good shape going from a 5.7 or 5.8 wave sail to my 6.6 Hucker then. The places I sail get pretty serious chop in high winds, so the added strength will be appreciated as well. |
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cgoudie1
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 2597 Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I totally agree with John here,
Slashes can't really happen if you aren't planning, so twisty stuff (sails and
boards) aren't that useful if you're not planed up. Wave sails tend to be
less powerful than other sails. (Ezzys and Northwaves are exceptions).
If you can get your hands on a used 5.5 Sailworks Retro, (I ride one in
Utah), those babies can really be tuned for some power (not good for
surf though). Another Hucker (5.6) could be a good call too (lots of power there).
-Craig |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5328 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Planning on sail sizing and type is all nice and a great mental calculation game.
However, with 35 year's past experience, it all goes by the wayside because what the actual winds are, with the days off you have, the boards, and the time, is much more important, maybe 70% more important, than your actual quiver. |
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montignp
Joined: 24 Aug 2015 Posts: 40
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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zirtaeb wrote: | Planning on sail sizing and type is all nice and a great mental calculation game.
However, with 35 year's past experience, it all goes by the wayside because what the actual winds are, with the days off you have, the boards, and the time, is much more important, maybe 70% more important, than your actual quiver. |
I need to start somewhere, though. |
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outcast
Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 2724
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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5.7 to a 6.6 hucker sounds good!
You could prob even get by dropping to a 4.7 from there
The .5 meter increment thing is great if you are dialed in, and understand what you are doing, but honestly like zirtaeb was implying, it all goes out the window when you hit the beach....watch the graphs from anywhere on this site, and on any day the numbers go all over the place...
and... are you really going to run back in and rig .5 less because it got to be a little windier...?
I see three sets of sailors usually...one resting in the parking lot, one on the water, and the last group spends a lot of time running to and from the beach re-rigging....
Try and get stuff that fits your mast/booms
k.i.s.s _________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=zw0MgkO7VXw |
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