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joethewindsufa



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:33 pm    Post subject: How do we get longboarding back ?? Reply with quote

okay - now there are inflatables and WindSUPs
how about getting back to longboarding ??
nothing beats the glide of the older longboards in light winds
have discovered nothing turns on a dime better than my BIC Dufour WING
my original/first board sprung a leak

so, i let it all dry out and was gonna fix it
instead found one for 50 bucks
bottom needed major cleaning, which still left stains
okay, put some primer on to hide the stains - needed grey - white not enuff

and then took it out for a spin on a small lake up north
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFdbqzyTvBs
cheap thrills oh yeah Razz

oh yeah - that's my "lake board"
also have a Mistral Equipe II XR that I cherish !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDAJxD7rm9E
and yes , i am NOT in the footstraps Embarassed
need to move mast base back even more

modern longboards are typically raceboards and cost way too much Crying or Very sad

how do we bring them back ??
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GURGLETROUSERS



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there will always be a need for longboard versatility as long as windsurfing survives Joe.

The old longboards (Cats, Equipes etc)were, after all, specialised racing boards, as opposed to play about allrounders such as the old Bic you picture. The modern Phantom carries on that tradition, while S.U.P. has taken over most of the casual user market, along with the Kona, for those who still prefer sailing only. They seem to be 'holding the fort' well enough.

My wish is that the Kona design should be 'tweaked', with a proper sliding mast-track, and more efficient daggerboard' while being built to the same lighter, durable, and faster feeling (i.e. Mistral DCS or Bic Ace-Tech etc) type construction as the old boards, but at a more affordable price than the mouth watering Carbone!

I'm sure ther would be a viable market for a great allround longboard, with a not inconsiderable sailing range and performance!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carbone is expensive for all those reasons
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joethewindsufa



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes , the Exocet/KONA brand is helping A LOT
http://joewindsurfer.blogspot.ca/2015/11/kona-is-one.html

in the WindSurfing NOW magazine there is an article about the ZEN of Longboarding

this summer there is the Canadian Masters in MTL
http://joewindsurfer.blogspot.ca/2016/05/canadian-masters-race-near-montreal-2016.html

just hope the FUN factor windsurfing comes back / families, etc
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joethewindsufa wrote:


just hope the FUN factor windsurfing comes back / families, etc


I didn't realize windsurfing wasn't fun. I must have missed or slept through that lesson.



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NICE
just hope it's not just you, me n boo ?? Very Happy

whoops - and a dog named "boo" ...


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Awalkspoiled



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s going to take what it always took - skilled sailors spreading the joy. Back in the day I always traveled with two boards on my car - whatever I was using as a raceboard at the time - Equipe 1, Tiga, AHD - and a big, wide easy to learn on board with a small teaching sail - a Windsurfer Star for a while, a Wayler, a Bic Wing. That way when someone asked “Is that hard to learn?” I could always say “Let’s find out...”. The heavy plastic board came out for freestyle when the winds were really light also.

The wide-tailed logs of yesteryear are still easier to learn on than the Kona One and a lot less scary to lend out than any raceboard, and in really light airs many of them outperform the Kona or raceboard too - I’d be a lot faster working a Superlight or even a Wayler upwind than a Kona in 5knt or less, and your Dufour might be the fastest tacking board ever. I ride a Carbone now as my do-everything board, but I have a Windsurfer One Design under the deck for guests who want to give the sport a try.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you started a campaign for new longboards...
I would suggest the forums, RX Starboard and Fanatic.

A smaller board company would probably be more receptive however.

Be prepared to pay a hefty price,
IMO I think most would be happy on a wind sup, I certainly am

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some longboards that I have considered in the past two years:

Kona Carbone
AHD Tacktic
Pryde RS X

I would enjoy having a longboard to sail in marginal winds, and maybe race a few times a year against other local sailors with the same board. But, there is no consensus as to which longboard we should sail..

I think that if everyone agreed on one longboard, it would be easier to buy one and sail it a lot of the time. But, there are too many choices, and many differences when it comes to choosing one. That's too bad, because longboards are great for beginners and intermediates, and long-time windsurfers who want more time on the water, and sailors who want one-design competition.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gvogelsang wrote:
Here are some longboards that I have considered in the past two years:

Kona Carbone
AHD Tacktic
Pryde RS X

I would enjoy having a longboard to sail in marginal winds, and maybe race a few times a year against other local sailors with the same board. But, there is no consensus as to which longboard we should sail..

I think that if everyone agreed on one longboard, it would be easier to buy one and sail it a lot of the time. But, there are too many choices, and many differences when it comes to choosing one. That's too bad, because longboards are great for beginners and intermediates, and long-time windsurfers who want more time on the water, and sailors who want one-design competition.


I've got a great answer for you! Get your friends together and get a few Kona Ones with the weight appropriate rigs. This years' Kona One Worlds is in the Florida Keys from October 28 to November 2. Practice together every chance you get (great motivation!), then head down to the race. Sailing in that clear water venue is so cool. There should be over 100 Konas from all over the world. Since one doesn't have to qualify for this event, there will be everything from ex-Olympians to average Joes. Me and some friends did this when Kona Worlds were in Miami. It was an awesome experience. The race in the keys will be even better, because most are staying at the hotel at the launch site.
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