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jingebritsen
Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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i have sailed them all. they are very good as a group.
carbone does everything best pertaining free sailing or, perhaps, open class racing. it is a fabulous ride. very rarefied too. special orders, sometimes, take time to fill. board is worthy of its price.
windSUP 11'8" does great for those that want to play in surf or putt around in a lake. planes well too. it, and the 10' will jibe quite easily in lots of different ways. has a more forgiving tail rocker.
kona one, step one, and carbone all are the same hull with varying amounts of upgrade. very versatile, lots available.
11'5" x-long board from exocet is my favorite. they don't stay in stock long. _________________ www.aerotechsails.com
www.exocet-original.com
www.iwindsurf.com
http://www.epicgearusa.com/ |
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brynkaufman2
Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Posts: 383 Location: Kailua Oahu
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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John, the 11'5 X-Longboard shows just one rear foot strap which look like a wave board to me.
Is it as good as the WindSUP for high speed blasting? Seems like for blasting the foot straps being out toward the side of the board would be better.
Also does it plane as easily as the WindSUP 10'? It is longer but has the same volume. |
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bmoore98
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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The X-Longboards have inserts for moving the the straps out. Not way out though. I think I saw an eleven five a few years ago that was supplied with only three straps but it clearly had inserts positioned for four foot straps. I use the four strap option on my 10'5". It's mostly lake sailing for me. |
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LUCARO
Joined: 07 Dec 1997 Posts: 661
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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jingebritsen wrote: | i have sailed them all. they are very good as a group.
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I too prefer the Kona 11.5 to the Kona One. How different is the CarbOne when compared to the KonaOne? |
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bmoore98
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 76
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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My CarbOne is a solid 9 lbs lighter than the last Kona One I had. It only has outboard footstrap inserts which is fine with me but some may not like that. It isn't supplied with a fin. After screwing around with fins I could not find one that works better than a stock Kona One fin. It turns better with the K1 fin. CarbOne Accelerates faster than the Kona One. Adjustable mast track on the CarbOne saves weight. I'm not one to adjust it on the fly very much. I keep my mast foot in the same approximate location as I did with the Kona One.
I am also a big fan of the 11'5". Similar weight to the CarbOne. Both very fun boards. The 11'5" has an American fin box which limits your fin size choices if your wanting something much bigger than 34 cm. I've had great success with a True Ames 26cm Surf Grass. It sounds small but it has a huge amount of surface area. The CarbOne will plain earlier than the 11'5" because of the extra volume. I have an opportunity to buy an 11'5" but I already have a lot of overlap in my quiver and as crazy as I am I just can't justify having an 11'5" plus a CarbOne. |
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jingebritsen
Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371
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konajoe
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 517
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:16 am Post subject: |
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outhaul wrote: | I own the 11'8 bamboo for several seasons now and have also briefly tried a regular Kona One.
My opinion, it's not even close, the 11'8 is hands down a better all around board, unless of course you plan on racing in the Kona series.
From what the OP stated the 11'8 would be the better choice. It also SUPs pretty well too. |
The OP wants upwind ability. I've never sailed the SUP he mentions. But if his favorite bar is a mile upwind, I'd bet that he'd be able to get there about 2 beers sooner on the Kona. Am I missing something? The Kona has a 46cm fin and a retractable centerboard.
How big are the fin and center fin on the SUP? Do you need a screwdriver to remove the center fin? |
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wernerhickey
Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Posts: 76
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | How big are the fin and center fin on the SUP? Do you need a screwdriver to remove the center fin? |
The Windsup has a retractable centre board that is effective - I have a 50 plus race fin I have used in the Windsup from time to time. It works well in light winds when sailing close when needed - in combination with the dropped centre board it is almost too much even in slight wind pick up. |
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LUCARO
Joined: 07 Dec 1997 Posts: 661
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks |
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konajoe
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 517
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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wernerhickey wrote: | Quote: | How big are the fin and center fin on the SUP? Do you need a screwdriver to remove the center fin? |
The Windsup has a retractable centre board that is effective - I have a 50 plus race fin I have used in the Windsup from time to time. It works well in light winds when sailing close when needed - in combination with the dropped centre board it is almost too much even in slight wind pick up. |
Wow! Talk about blurred lines. So what is the difference between a longboard and a big wind/sup? I'm sure that the marketing folks have realized that a wind/sup is way more cool than a longboard windsurfer. |
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