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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
Matty, the entire civilized Western World wanted Vlad's puppet out of there.. Please do a little homework. Wrecking havoc on Burisma was the Kremlin's way of weakening a country they feel is theirs. Many players , including Trump's former campaign manager made a ton of money connecting the West to Ukraine. Hinter is no different, he just happened to be the Veep's son. Not corrupt, maybe a conflict of interest, but not corrupt....


"Just happens to be the VP son" did you really say something so insanely stupid.........whatever you believe dude....but the hair stoker will not survive the Ukrainian scandal..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
nw30 wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
Matty, the entire civilized Western World wanted Vlad's puppet out of there..
And the entire scientific community agree that man caused global warming.
Gotta love the all inclusive statements, they are so convincing.


Caveman rationale: Joe Son worked for company
Joe Dad wanted man pressuring Joe Son company out.
Joe Son, and Joe Dad corrupt.
Rinse /Repeat

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/


That's pretty much the rationale for 99% off the Trump BS that has fallen flat on it's face for the past two years,.,.. look in the mirror nitwit...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty, it's laughable how quick you are willing to lynch Joe Biden and think the worst about him with absolutely no real facts at all.

Do you really think that Biden's activities pressuring the Ukraine's government were unleashed without proper authority from the Obama Administration? Moreover, there is no doubt that the leaders of the European Union were supportive of the actions that Biden took. There are more than enough facts to support Biden's task.

It was nothing like Donald Trump's circumventing formal diplomatic channels with his crew questionable folks led by Giuliani and doing unquestionably illegal things. Activities that were totally amateur and out of the mainstream to qualify as reasonable statesmanship. It's no small wonder that the White House scrambled to bury Trump's July 25th call and offer up a cleaned-up summary of the call. Still though, there is no doubt that Trump deeply incriminated himself in requiring an investigation of Biden in return for a White House meeting and the nearly 400 million in military aid that Congress approved. Clearly a blatant bribery scheme.

Yet, as bad as Trump stinks of dishonesty and corruption, you look the other way and easily ignore his illegal activities. Why would anyone think that there was nothing wrong with your view of things?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:

Do you really think that Biden's activities pressuring the Ukraine's government were unleashed without proper authority from the Obama Administration? Moreover, there is no doubt that the leaders of the European Union were supportive of the actions that Biden took. There are more than enough facts to support Biden's task.

"Biden's task" of achieving QPQ with Obama's approval, as you just alluded to.
Yes, most everything does point back to Obama in the long run, and if impeachment goes to the Senate, it will become obvious.
Thanks for reminding everyone here (all 6 people on a busy day Laughing ) of that.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
mat-ty, it's laughable how quick you are willing to lynch Joe Biden and think the worst about him with absolutely no real facts at all.

Do you really think that Biden's activities pressuring the Ukraine's government were unleashed without proper authority from the Obama Administration? Moreover, there is no doubt that the leaders of the European Union were supportive of the actions that Biden took. There are more than enough facts to support Biden's task.

It was nothing like Donald Trump's circumventing formal diplomatic channels with his crew questionable folks led by Giuliani and doing unquestionably illegal things. Activities that were totally amateur and out of the mainstream to qualify as reasonable statesmanship. It's no small wonder that the White House scrambled to bury Trump's July 25th call and offer up a cleaned-up summary of the call. Still though, there is no doubt that Trump deeply incriminated himself in requiring an investigation of Biden in return for a White House meeting and the nearly 400 million in military aid that Congress approved. Clearly a blatant bribery scheme.

Yet, as bad as Trump stinks of dishonesty and corruption, you look the other way and easily ignore his illegal activities. Why would anyone think that there was nothing wrong with your view of things?



Wrong stupid....Trump was well within his rights AS COMMANDER AND CHIEF to ask the Ukrainian president to investigate perceived corruption by Joe Biden...his own staff knew it was a problem.. What did Trump say to the Ukrainian president after he agreed to help??....talk to Rudy and the Attorney General..In other words, this is a legal matter, hardly something illegal or corrupt as you ass-whipes would like to claim.....

The Ukrainian hoax is a desperate joke , going nowhere and you clowns are too dumb to even realize what an epic failure it has been...fucking morons incapable of appealing to the American people, so you just try to bring Trump down...lol
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty, Donald Trump championed the 'Birther' movement for years, but he was never able to prove it.

Total BS all the time. That's Donald Trump's game, and that's why he is unfit to be president. He is a terribly dishonest guy.

The guy needs to go, yet you're clueless. I can't believe it.

Mark my words, Donald Trump will be impeached by the House of Representatives and that's very serious business.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW30, I think that you're running off the rails, because your bend on things is hardly supported by facts.

Just another foolish Trump supporter.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, it's commander IN chief, not AND chief.

Now you may continue. Very Happy
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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
swchandler wrote:
mat-ty, it's laughable how quick you are willing to lynch Joe Biden and think the worst about him with absolutely no real facts at all.

Do you really think that Biden's activities pressuring the Ukraine's government were unleashed without proper authority from the Obama Administration? Moreover, there is no doubt that the leaders of the European Union were supportive of the actions that Biden took. There are more than enough facts to support Biden's task.

It was nothing like Donald Trump's circumventing formal diplomatic channels with his crew questionable folks led by Giuliani and doing unquestionably illegal things. Activities that were totally amateur and out of the mainstream to qualify as reasonable statesmanship. It's no small wonder that the White House scrambled to bury Trump's July 25th call and offer up a cleaned-up summary of the call. Still though, there is no doubt that Trump deeply incriminated himself in requiring an investigation of Biden in return for a White House meeting and the nearly 400 million in military aid that Congress approved. Clearly a blatant bribery scheme.

Yet, as bad as Trump stinks of dishonesty and corruption, you look the other way and easily ignore his illegal activities. Why would anyone think that there was nothing wrong with your view of things?



Wrong stupid....Trump was well within his rights AS COMMANDER AND CHIEF to ask the Ukrainian president to investigate perceived corruption by Joe Biden...his own staff knew it was a problem.. What did Trump say to the Ukrainian president after he agreed to help??....talk to Rudy and the Attorney General..In other words, this is a legal matter, hardly something illegal or corrupt as you ass-whipes would like to claim.....

The Ukrainian hoax is a desperate joke , going nowhere and you clowns are too dumb to even realize what an epic failure it has been...fucking morons incapable of appealing to the American people, so you just try to bring Trump down...lol


Wrong stupid. Extortion, bribery, and violation of the Impoundment Act—for which he will be impeached. Winter will arrive before Christmas.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
mat-ty, Donald Trump championed the 'Birther' movement for years, but he was never able to prove it.

Total BS all the time. That's Donald Trump's game, and that's why he is unfit to be president. He is a terribly dishonest guy.

The guy needs to go, yet you're clueless. I can't believe it.

Mark my words, Donald Trump will be impeached by the House of Representatives and that's very serious business.



Lol...again you show how naive and how out of touch you are....It will be the first 110% not %100 PARTISAN IMPEACHMENT.... and another stain on the party that has lost it's way...trust me people will notice..

And then when it's gets to the Senate in the Summer it will be an even bigger disaster for the left going into November........This is what happens to a party that has lost it's way and is being wagged by four radical, racist, anti american cunts...
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