Culture wars

techno900 · Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4162

mac said:

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

nw30 · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:11 pm Post subject:

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

"Are you aware that more Muslims are entering the U.S. than Mexicans?"

What's your source for the above statement? One has to assume that any real record of Muslims entering the US must be based on legal immigration, and not illegal immigration. Moreover, do you think that the Dept. of Homeland Security isn't mindful of the credentials and specific details of those entering the country legally. If the truth be told, legal Muslim immigrants are probably watched and monitored very closely, and that would be particularly true of Muslim visitors coming to the US on travel visas.

Again, regarding the video, other than the obvious visuals, not very much is clear. What are the women saying, and what was the real nature of the event? Anyone crashing an event in an untoward way is going feel the pressure of event security, and probably others that could be offended by protester's stunt. That doesn't warrant undue brutality though. I trust that police authorities would be brought in if that occurred, and responsible media would be all over it. We are talking about France here and not some backward area where ISIS is in control.

MalibuGuru · Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300

The department of Homeland security is run by a bunch of idiots SWC. The whole administration is run by fools. They are not checking anybody coming into our country. How do you check the soul of millions of people?

GT is correct in his words. We are losing our culture.

mac · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:22 pm Post subject:

I repeat, xenophobic and proud. Thus, the popularity of Trump. The Copperheads are reborn. Too many rocks have been turned over, and the slugs are on the march.

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

Bard, you've got to be kidding me. What in the hell do you really know?

I asked you a simple question about what you claimed, and you offered what? Hateful comments about the Obama Administration and the Dept. of Homeland Security that are totally devoid any credible substance. Do you feel the same way about the FBI and the role they play in our security?

The one thing is really clear from your comments is that you are very fearful of Muslims and their culture. I'll be honest with you, I don't trust Christians or Muslims, but I don't fear for our culture here in America. That's because here in the US our Constitution ensures that there is a clear legal separation between church and state. Still though religious folks are always ready to eat away at our freedoms, and that why I don't trust any of them. There is no freedom in religion. You would be wise to recognize that, because it's absolutely true. Fortunately, there are a lot of folks like me in this country, and we're always ready to call religious BS.

LHDR · Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 528

Mac, I'm not sure whether concern about significant numbers of Muslims entering European countries is xenophobic or can be morally acceptable.

Is it xenophobic or morally acceptable when the Hungarian Prime minister is concerned about preserving the Hungarian way of life, as GT pointed out? Islam, at its current stage, has a strong ambition to influence politics and public behavior. To keep religion private and out of politics, as seems common in Europe, may be impossible given some of the projected numbers of Europe's current residents compared to new Muslim immigrants.

You mentioned US ancestors coming from Ireland, Italy, Hungary etc. Immigration from Europe certainly turned out to be devastating for the native American population and pretty much wiped out their way of life. Is it far fetched to wonder if something similar may happen in Europe?

nw30 · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:55 am Post subject: