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mac
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You are such a silly little man. You aren't aware that Reagan and multiple Republicans set the current immigration policy in place. Obama has done more to enforce than any previous Republican, under the mistaken hope that with some increased level of enforcement it might be possible to sit down and craft a bipartisan compromise on immigration reform. The Tea Party nut cases in the House blocked that from happening. But they did not insist that we enforce immigration laws against the big businesses that hire the most--the hotel industry, the meat packing industry, and so forth.
I think that the whole concept of trying to deport millions of immigrants is stupid. It would require massive expansion of the Federal government, hijack the Federal courts, and disrupt the economy. Knowing that it is stupid, and would never make it through Congress doesn't make me a supporter of open borders. I think it is called a reality check.
I also abhor the poorly informed scapegoating of immigrants, both in this country and in Britain. But since 40% of the populace can't name the vice president, or indeed most of their elected officials, and most Republicans think Obama is not a citizen--courtesy of bigot-Trump--such stupidity does not surprise me. |
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real-human
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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well written...
http://cleantechnica.com/2016/10/14/obama-nails-gop-created-monster-donald-trump-just-branded/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IM-cleantechnica+%28CleanTechnica%29
Obama Nails GOP — You Created The Monster, Donald Trump Just Branded It
| Quote: | Obama has long been excellent with words, but his comments seem to be getting more potent and more to the point as his second term draws to a close. He’s being blunt with the US public, and he’s finally highlighting very strongly how absurd the “Grand Old Party” (GOP) has been acting since he became president.
In a talk last night, after highlighting some of the insane conspiracy theories some Republican leaders have been pushing since our first black president was elected, he said, “They stood by while this happened, and Donald Trump as he’s prone to do, he didn’t build the building himself — he just slapped his name on it and took credit for it.”
Donald Trump’s presidential campaign is nearly in the dust bin of history — well, one of our filthiest, nastiest, rudest, most sexist, most racist, and most conspiracy-laden dust bins — and several Republicans running for Congress have finally decided to abandon him. But the attempts at political gaming are about as absurd as Donald’s hugely unprofessional run for office. These people stood by after countless horrible statements, and knowing very well who Donald Trump is, and they supported him until it seemed his presidential efforts were doomed and he might take their reelection chances down with him.
This was cowardly, harmful for our country (and the world as a whole), and simply another sign of how poorly these people represent the country’s ideals.
“You can’t wait until that finally happens and then say that’s too much and think that somehow you are showing any kind of leadership and deserve to be elected to the United States Senate,” Obama said. “You don’t get points for that.”
Referencing an absurd conspiracy Texas Governor Greg Abbott apparently either bought into or tried to further hype (the idea that Obama was going to try to take over the government), Obama said, “They took it seriously. This is in the swamp of crazy that has been fed over and over and over and over again.”
On June 13, a day before Donald Trump’s birthday, I asked if the USA was ready to elect a conspiracy theorist as president. But the thing is, as Obama pointed out, US voters have elected dozens or hundreds of hardcore conspiracy theorists to Congress, Republicans who have been convinced or convinced others that Obama isn’t American, Obama is a communist, Obama is a Muslim — and one who sympathizes with ISIS(!), Obama is aiding ISIS, Obama hates America and wants to destroy it — and that is just the beginning of topics regarding Obama, not to mention so many other topics!
It’s not even controversial any more that the Republican Party has made opposing climate action one of its cardinal rules, with almost all Republicans in Congress unwilling to admit that humans are causing rapid and extremely harmful global warming that puts our society at risk. If a Republican acknowledges the scientific consensus and lines herself or himself up with the voting public on the topic, she or he is basically guaranteed to face a heavily funded contender brought in by Republican “leadership” in the next primary campaign. A few Republican climate hawks lost their seats in Congress in that way.
Back to Obama and his speech last night, he then highlighted the obvious: Donald Trump has actually said numerous absurd things on the campaign trail that should have resulted in other Republicans disavowing him, but they didn’t do so … until a horrible debate performance, an embarrassing following week, and a leaked audio recording that all but crushed Donald’s chances at winning the election. Then, because it was politically useful for them to do so, a handful of these Republican Congresspeople spoke up. But they didn’t do so much earlier when Donald said horrible things, dangerous things.
But it’s not even about Donald, his proposed ban on Muslims, his proposed wall between the US and Mexico that Mexico is going to pay for, the fact that he categorically called Mexicans rapists and criminals, his attempt to bully a judge off of his Trump University case because his parents were born in Mexico (he was born in Indiana) and must therefore be biased against Trump, his constant name-calling (“Little Marco,” “Crazy Bernie,” “Pocahontas”), his indecent reference to a Fox News anchor’s menstrual cycle (a Fox News anchor!), his claim that global warming is a Chinese hoax, his praise of ruthless dictators and mass murderers, and so on, and so on. It’s not even about that. What it’s about is that the conspiracy-loving Republican leadership actually created the caustic castle for Trump to walk into and slightly rebrand. As Obama said, he basically just adopted what their approach has been and put his name on it.
Not long after Obama took office, the top-ranking Republican in Congress admitted that his #1 priority was to make Obama a one-term president. No, it wasn’t to help get the country out of a severe recession. No, it wasn’t to serve the nation in order to improve its economy and quality of life as much as possible. It was actually in essence the opposite of that. The Republican leader’s #1 objective was to make Obama a one-term president. How could Republicans achieve that? By doing their best to not help the US economy improve, and by doing their best to spread absurd conspiracy theories about Obama. They launched this political approach, and now they act surprised when Trump adopts it, turns the volume up one notch, and turns the daggers toward his own opponents in the GOP as well?
A recording from a decade ago isn’t what led several top Republican candidates to pull their for Trump. His free-falling poll numbers are what did so, because then it became a political positive for them to disassociate from him. Honestly, it’s just more of what they’ve been doing for a decade or more — make decisions based on selfish motives rather than on what’s good for the country.
But the problem isn’t even that they are acting on selfish motives. The problem is that their approach to politics has been to spread hate, spread fear, spread counterproductive conspiracies, divide the country, demonize Democrats (including Hillary Clinton, a Republican target for smear campaigns for decades), and — when necessary — make the US economy and the country’s quality of life worse in order to win the next election.
I plan to come back to several of the conspiracy theories Republican “leaders” have pumped into the mainstream media and political discussions in the coming days, so stay check back in soon if you want to see more evidence, and feel free to drop some of your “favorite” absurdities and Republican conspiracy theories down in the comments as well. |
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mat-ty
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The direction of the country does not really have much to do with the president........Did you really write that???
Dude let it go...Obama sucks and everyone knows it, they just don't want to called racist and bigots by stupid old liberals like mac. Obama got a free pass from the press and has basically never been criticized or challenged from anyone on the left...anyone!!!
Obamacare sucks, the economy sucks, the debt sucks, race relation suck, police respect at an all time low, he has Zero respect around the world. |
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coboardhead
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I am just reporting what a historical analysis of the polls indicates Matty. The numbers actually improved during Obama's term. But, the numbers are dependent on some cyclic trends and world events.
Blaming Obama for this indicator is not very accurate but if it makes you feel good...whatever. Hey...maybe that alone makes some portion of the population happy! Blame Obama. |
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vientomas
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| mat-ty wrote: | | [Obama]...has Zero respect around the world. |
Just 'cause you say it, don't make it so...
"As he nears the end of his presidency, Barack Obama continues to enjoy a broad degree of international popularity. A new Pew Research Center survey conducted in 10 European nations, four major Asia-Pacific countries, Canada and the United States finds that half or more of those polled in 15 of 16 countries express confidence in the American leader.
Although he has not been universally praised by global publics throughout his two terms in office, previous Pew Research Center surveys have found higher international ratings for Obama than for his predecessor, George W. Bush. During the Bush era, opposition to U.S. foreign policy and rising anti-Americanism were widespread in many regions of the world, but Obama’s election in November 2008 led to a significant improvement in America’s global image. The shift was especially dramatic in Western Europe, where assessments of Bush were grim, but subsequent views of Obama have been remarkably positive."
http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/06/29/as-obama-years-draw-to-close-president-and-u-s-seen-favorably-in-europe-and-asia/ |
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real-human
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:52 am Post subject: |
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in essence Matty the trust fund kid who appears to be paid to post lies, is it free speech or paid lies. He is so lazy he can not even try to back up his lies.
from your link above post, also take a look of what the world thinks of the soon to be convicted not elected pediophile trump.
also take a look at trumps hate rallies...
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/15/1582743/-Shrinking-Audiences-for-Trump
Shrinking Audiences for Trump
| Quote: | | The White Oak Amphitheatre, which President Obama packed to excess of its 7,700 person limit Tuesday night, leaving another 1,500 supporters stranded outside, wasn’t even half full on Friday. A listless crowd occasionally chanted “Trump, Trump, Trump,” but it never got momentum…. |
https://www.thenation.com/article/in-greensboro-obama-links-trumps-misogyny-to-trumps-racism-as-only-obama-can/
| Quote: | But Obama was grim and serious about the Trump threat, too. “When in the middle of a debate you threaten to put your political opponent in jail, that—no trial, no indictment, no lawyers…,” Obama said. “When you welcome Russian meddling in our electoral process, then you’re disregarding not just things like facts, or evidence, or a free press, but you’re chipping away at basic values like tolerance and due process and mutual respect.”
With genuine anger, Obama told the crowd Trump “doesn’t have the temperament, or the judgment, or the knowledge, or apparently, the desire to obtain the knowledge, or the basic honesty that a president needs to have,” adding, “And that was true even before we heard about his attitude toward women.” |
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trump puts his obviously illegally acquired citizenship wife up to fight the writer...
she says and sues that she never had a conversation with the writer. Well today comes out with a witness that was present when Melania the wife ran into the reporter on the street when the conversation took place.
So now we have another liar in the liar family Milania...
remember Melania lied on her website that she was a college graduate.... she removed it.
her immigration record is also in question. She appears to worked a model in the pornography industry a year before she was legal.
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