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nw30



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
I'll give it to you straight Techno. There are so many tropes associated with the latest GOP dog-whistle that I can't believe you would defend it. The most notorious dog-whistle is the series of Willie Horton adds. But the code here is that some of those Northern Negeroes just don' know their place. We'll teach them not to be uppity--we'll make sure they never work in this league again. Free speech is for white folks, not for black folks. The list goes on. You don't have to use the "N" word, you can trigger some fake patriotism and people can reassure themselves that their hatred for Kaepernick has nothing to do with his color. So you can say these things instead of using the N word.

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"I watched Colin Kaepernick, and I thought it was terrible, and then it got bigger and bigger and started mushrooming, and frankly the NFL should have suspended him for one game, and he would have never done it again," Trump told Fox News's Sean Hannity in an interview Wednesday night before an audience in Harrisburg, Pa. "They could have then suspended him for two games, and they could have suspended him if he did it a third time, for the season, and you would never have had a problem. But I will tell you, you cannot disrespect our country, our flag, our anthem — you cannot do that."


Jerry Jones:

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Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones doubled down Wednesday on insisting that his players stand for the national anthem, declaring that he wouldn't support anyone who chose to stay in the locker room.

Speaking at his annual news conference to open training camp in California, the outspoken billionaire became the first owner to say publicly that his players would not be allowed to stay off the field during the anthem.


Whatever you think about the demonstrations of black NFL players, whose experience of racism is very different than your own, they have free speech rights. The attempt to abrogate those rights by Trump is fascism, straight up, and it should concern anyone that actually supports our form of government.

Uppity Kaerpernick is the meta-message. Not by accident.
Mac you're a funny guy, you care so much about your perceived racism as being a part of all the people here to the right of you, and to what end?
Don't you think it would be a better use of your time and energy if you were more concerned about the racism w/in your own party, and your party's representatives in DC? They aren't serving you party any good at all, and even your liberal paper, WaPo is showing some concern.
Or is it that you like to use us here as nothing but a distraction from all that w/in your party, by trying to apply more importance to us, when we are not your problem, no matter how falsely you try to label us.
You are sounding just like AOC.
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House Democrats' racially charged infighting escalates
7/13/19
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-democrats-racially-charged-infighting-escalates/ar-AAEhJzy?ocid=spartandhp
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW--you aren't remotely funny. Dumb as a rock, and I guess you like these comments:

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d/The Washington Post)

By Aaron Blake
July 14 at 10:56 AM
The president of the United States on Sunday urged some women in Congress to go back to the countries from which they came. The problem — beyond the nasty historical overtones of such a sentiment, of course — is that three of the four women about whom he appeared to be talking were born in the United States.

Trump’s tweets on these kinds of things are often somewhat carefully crafted — enough to give him some plausible deniability. But it’s pretty clear this one was directed at three American-born congresswoman as well as one refugee-turned-lawmaker, other-izing them all and urging them to return to countries they weren’t born in.

Here’s what Trump said:


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
· 4h
So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

@realDonaldTrump
· 4h
Replying to @realDonaldTrump
....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!


“So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly . . . and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run,” Trump said.

He added: “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how . . . it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough."

Then comes the key part: “I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!”

There’s one person these tweets are obviously about, and that’s Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.). Trump’s sentiment closely echoes a controversial segment that Fox News host Tucker Carlson did last week in which he urged the Somali-born congresswoman to return to her birth country, citing her alleged “undisguised contempt for the United States and for its people.” Trump appears to have seen this segment and regurgitated it, as he often does with Fox’s programming.

'I'm as American as everyone else is': Rep. Omar fires back at critics during Colbert appearance
Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) tackled some of her more recent controversies in an interview with Stephen Colbert on April 10. (Drea Cornejo/The Washington Post)
But Trump’s tweets didn’t refer to just one female member of Congress; they referred to “'Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen” — plural. So who else might he be urging to return to their country?

In addition to Omar, here are the other foreign-born Democratic members of Congress, according to a list compiled by the Pew Research Center, along with their birth countries.


Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), India
Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (D-Fla.), Ecuador
Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-Fla.), Vietnam
Rep. Norma J. Torres (D-Calif.), Guatemala
Now remember how Trump ended his tweets: He said Pelosi would be glad to arrange these members’ travel back to the countries from which they originally came. It’s a reference to the recent infighting between her and some of the party’s progressive members — a suggestion that Pelosi would be glad to see them gone.

Torres and Mucarsel-Powell, though, haven’t gotten themselves involved in this, and Murphy is a moderate who has taken Pelosi’s side. That leaves Jayapal as the only plausible member of the foreign-born “'Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen” group that he could be talking about, along with Omar. Jayapal has said Pelosi’s dismissive comments about Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and others were “not helpful,” amid other comments.

But was Trump talking about a member who was born in India? He described the governments of these members’ birth countries as being a “complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world.” It’s reasonable to think that might apply to Somalia, Ecuador and Guatemala, but India?


Not according to Trump himself. Just two weeks ago, Trump said this of India while meeting with its prime minister, Narendra Modi: “India is doing very well as a country.” Trump said in late 2017 that Modi was “a great gentleman doing a fantastic job in bringing around lots of factions in India — bringing them all together. That’s what I hear, and that’s good news. And it really is. It’s a lot of good reports coming out of India.”

He tweeted this in May, after Modi’s electoral victory:



So it’s clear Trump wasn’t talking about Jayapal going back to India. He was talking about Omar and someone else. The most logical interpretation is that he meant the other members of “the squad,” — the members who have clashed most directly with Pelosi in recent days: Ocasio-Cortez, Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.).


Ocasio-Cortez’s family is from Puerto Rico (which is a U.S. territory), and she was born in New York. Tlaib is Palestinian American but was born in Detroit. Pressley is black but was born in Chicago.

So not only is Trump rekindling a nasty historical talking point about immigrants, he’s apparently other-izing brown-skinned members of Congress by implying they are foreigners who, as Carlson suggested, may not love this country.

That’s an incredible sentiment from the president of the United States, and it’s pretty unmistakable.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac thinks other races need our help.....because they are inferior. There can be no other explanation
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bingo!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malibu and NW don't think.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That took a lot of thought, hopefully you didn't give yourself a headache in the process.
Something else for you to try to think about, besides us.
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Racial politics roil Democratic Party
By Jonathan Easley - 07/13/19 06:18 AM EDT
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452856-racial-politics-roil-democratic-party
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
All time high ,27000. Crickets from the POS liberal media..

And this is with Trumps unpopular tariffs in the daily headlines.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Not true young lad , the financial media references it every day. But go ahead and think what you want if it warms your 'nads.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
All time high ,27000. Crickets from the POS liberal media..

And this is with Trumps unpopular tariffs in the daily headlines.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Not true young lad , the financial media references it every day. But go ahead and think what you want if it warms your 'nads.


Of course the financial news reports it, that would be like the weather man ignoring a hurricane. The main stream media has given little to no coverage...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
All time high ,27000. Crickets from the POS liberal media..

And this is with Trumps unpopular tariffs in the daily headlines.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Not true young lad , the financial media references it every day. But go ahead and think what you want if it warms your 'nads.


Of course the financial news reports it, that would be like the weather man ignoring a hurricane. The main stream media has given little to no coverage...


I've noticed over the years as the financial networks have emerged, that the mainstream networks have reduced their coverage of the markets quite dramatically. Look, we have 21% Corporate tax rates, a FED easing which is crazy, and a Federal GOVT ladelling out $1TRILLION /year of Keysnesian support to the economy.... A stock market dream....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current Budget 18% higher than Obama's final year.....$2.6TR of new debt since Trump took over....

"Will the last conservative out of town please turn out the lights?"

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/comes-mcconnell-budget-deal-will-rule-rest-trumps-presidency/
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