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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrgybe wrote:
Do you people really have nothing better to do? A handful of old men scouring the internet to find material to support your biases, so that the four of five of you can nod in agreement like you used to with your little schoolyard gangs. If you want an adult debate on a legitimate issue, fine. However, daily repetition of "Trump stupid, Trump a criminal, Covid Trump's fault" and on and on, says a lot more about you than it does him. For heavens sake go windsurfing or find something useful to do.


Thank you flu man. Always willing to scold. Never willing to apologize.

No comments on the 250,000 deaths I see. Part of his approach to "adult debate."
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isobars



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had any idea how many hundreds of times, in how many tens of thousands of words, and with how many scores of examples, I and others here have told these guys this and warned newcomers including yourself of their behavior, you'd have reached this conclusion years ago. To his credit, Justall caught on in just days.



mrgybe wrote:
Do you people really have nothing better to do? A handful of old men scouring the internet to find material to support your biases, so that the four of five of you can nod in agreement like you used to with your little schoolyard gangs. If you want an adult debate on a legitimate issue, fine. However, daily repetition of "Trump stupid, Trump a criminal, Covid Trump's fault" and on and on, says a lot more about you than it does him. For heavens sake go windsurfing or find something useful to do.
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nw30



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how Trump supposedly lost and most of the down ballot GOP candidates won, not only in congress but in most of the state elections as well. It could even be considered a red wave of sorts.
Sorry no mandate, not even close.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's right .. Boring, and moderate won the evening. A dream for a guy like me...

"supposedly" ..that's funny. I guess 6,000,000 Americans and a "landslide" in the EC doesn't register for the looneys
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Funny how Trump supposedly lost and most of the down ballot GOP candidates won, not only in congress but in most of the state elections as well. It could even be considered a red wave of sorts.
Sorry no mandate, not even close.


The GOP candidates SHOULD have won. Trumpís problem with the suburban voters did not translate down ballot. Itís pretty simple NW. Enough people rejected Trump but not the GOP...this time...

That said, there is a fundamental shift going on in this country. The blue collar and rural areas are heading to the GOP with greater intensity. Meanwhile, college educated whites are leaving the GOP. Thatís why Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina are now purple and Colorado and Virginia are solid blue.

Itís not a conspiracy. Itís just the shift in demographics.

Colorado had a blue wave (sorta). The State has the best economy, high education levels and, relatively, low taxes. The Democrats delivered this here and they were rewarded.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW30, you guys suffered your biggest defeat with Donald Trump losing the presidency. To me that's what really matters, because he will soon be gone and America will have an opportunity to recover. Trump will be remembered as a dishonest one term president that will always wear the stain of impeachment.

You might think right now that Republicans will retain the Senate, but that just might change in January. Even if Democrats don't win both seats, it very plausible that they might win one and potentially crack Mitch McConnell's hold on his majority. All there needs to be is one thoughtful Republican to break away and vote with the Democrats.
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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Funny how Trump supposedly lost and most of the down ballot GOP candidates won, not only in congress but in most of the state elections as well. It could even be considered a red wave of sorts.
Sorry no mandate, not even close.
"Supposedly"?

Same margin that elected Fat Donny. Most of us that you describe as libertards were supportive of Biden as the moderate--and the adult--in the room.
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coachg



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Funny how Trump supposedly lost and most of the down ballot GOP candidates won, not only in congress but in most of the state elections as well. It could even be considered a red wave of sorts.
Sorry no mandate, not even close.


Trump didn't "supposedly lose", he lost in a "landslide" according to Kellyanne. The ass whooping Trump took was because millions of independents who didn't vote in the last Presidential election voted against him this time. We were not voting against the Republican party; just against Trump.

Coachg
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coachg wrote:
nw30 wrote:
Funny how Trump supposedly lost and most of the down ballot GOP candidates won, not only in congress but in most of the state elections as well. It could even be considered a red wave of sorts.
Sorry no mandate, not even close.


Trump didn't "supposedly lose", he lost in a "landslide" according to Kellyanne. The ass whooping Trump took was because millions of independents who didn't vote in the last Presidential election voted against him this time. We were not voting against the Republican party; just against Trump.

Coachg
So you like Republicans, who all is "we", mac, Boggs, swc, vientominos? It must be why you decided to believe every word Kellyanne had to say.
You could have fooled me.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im guessing the 51.2% of the country , or 79,200,00 people , the ďweĒ..
Even if California didnít exist , Biden would still have won the popular vote..
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