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gregnw44
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| coachg wrote: | The Viper has 30 more liters and 10 cm more width than the Kona so it will be more stable. However its shorter length & greater width will make it not perform as well in slogging mode compared to the Kona.
Will it work for you right now? At your stage yes, the Viper will work probably better than the Kona. But for long term use it depends on your goals & where you plan to sail. Obviously you are in a very light wind place, the question is how large is your lake? If it is a small lake than the Viper will be fine as your only board, but if you will be sailing in a large body of water where you plan to explore in light wind than the Kona would be much better.
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Totally agree.
Except for one thing, probably a typo. The Viper in question is 30L "less" in vol, not more.. than a Kona One.
As far as which one of these boards would be more stable for a 190# guy learning to windsurf?
I don't know... it might be about the same for the original poster.
For someone 120# learning in very light wind, the 190L Viper might be more stable with 10cm more width.
But for someone 190# I would give the advantage to the 220L Kona. The vol... and the length... and the mostly flat bottom, make it very stable.
FYI - For BIG guys learning... Kona has a new board called the Hula (designed by Tinho D in FL). I've sailed it. It's great. Huge vol (way more than a Kona)... longer than a Viper, but shorter than a Kona... wide... it's the way to go for BIG guys!!
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qwertyjjj
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| Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Kona One's are a bit difficult to find in Quebec though.
I can see dome used BIC Hybrid 240 for $900
AHD Zen 170 - might be too small.
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gregnw44
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It's middle of winter for you, right?
Probably not sailing anyway, for a few months.
Keep your eye on used longboards, from back in the day.
You'll find something for $100-$400 by June.
And if you see something interesting, but want to know more about, if it's good for you or not... send me a note. Remind me of this conversation... and I'll give you an assessment (at least IMHO) about if it's a good choice for you or not.
And post the same question here.
It's just that for me, sometimes I go months without looking at iWindsurf (we have our own chat group here, close to home
gregnw44 at Hotmail
dot com you'll get me
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qwertyjjj
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Is there much benefit in getting say a Kona One rather than some old longboard from the 80s/90s?
Is the Kona a bit wider or just about the same?
I've been on a longboard before, can;t remember exact make but it wasn't stable at all. |
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gregnw44
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| qwertyjjj wrote: | Is there much benefit in getting say a Kona One rather than some old longboard from the 80s/90s?
Is the Kona a bit wider or just about the same?
I've been on a longboard before, can;t remember exact make but it wasn't stable at all. |
* Yes, there can be a lot of benefit to getting a new Kona One, compared to "some" old longboards.
* Yes a Kona is a wider than many older longboards. But there were 100-200 longboards that were popular all over the world in the 80 / 90's. Some of them have somewhat similar dimensions to a Kona.
* Regarding longboard stability. It all depends on how much you weigh, and how much vol the board has. A Kona has 220L of vol. There were tons of longboards with less vol than that... some were down near 150-165L. And there were tons of boards with lots more vol than Kona. Therefore, you want to have a longboard with lots of vol to support yourself. And the next thing is to take lessons, so you know where to put your feet. Having your feet in the right spot does wonders for stability.
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| isobars wrote: | | 135L as the only board for a 190 pound beginner in winds averaging 10 mph ... 16 on unusually windy days? I just don't buy that. Wouldn't he get MUCH more TOW with MUCH more fun and thus MUCH more progress on fully 50% more volume ... another 100 liters if a narrow longboard? |
looks like isobars was correct unfortunately
qwertyjjj purchased the board and found it was too much for him
instead he got a SB GO which is his go-to board now - pardon the pun
as i am missing details on this one, can only assume it is 160 litres + |
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