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mac
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The rookie Congressman took flights from corporations, contrary to ethics rules. I guess he gets a pass from you on that. Did the Exxon deal make your stock go up?
| Quote: | | Schock's fall comes at the nadir of growing ethics scandals—which news outlets, including National Journal, turned up seemingly every few days. What began as an early February Washington Post story on the congressman's Downton Abbey-themed office has since spiraled into media investigations of Schock's spending and a slew of possible ethics violations. |
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pointster
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| mrgybe wrote: | | The sad part is that he's actually satisfied with that absurd explanation......"They were traveling to different airports [in the same town] on slightly different schedules"..........and then whines about a double standard while lambasting a rookie congressman for extravagance. What a joke. |
Schock is not a rookie congressman, he has served since 2009. Before that, he was an Illinois legislator. He has a degree in finance, and worked in accounting, so one presumes he knows his way around expense reporting.
As regards the Obamas, nothing I've seen indicates their travel expenses have been excessive in comparison to previous White House occupants. |
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isobars
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, and they were roundly criticized for it. Two wrongs ... |
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mac
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Reading comprehension, as well as manners, escaped mrgybe in his early childhood education. Perhaps he will repeat those lessons as he enters his second childhood. He states:
| Quote: | | The sad part is that he's actually satisfied with that absurd explanation |
Not remotely what I said. What I posted, because journalism requires some examination of both sides, was "here is the White House explanation."
Now, let's actually look a little bit at how bureaucracies work--whether at Exxon or at the White House. Different people keep the schedules of Barack and Michele, and different people organize their travel. Same thing goes on in business. Since mrgybe seems to have learned his oily set of ethics in dealing with Exxon, maybe we should look at their behavior:
| Quote: | April 12 (Bloomberg) -- Exxon Mobil Corp.’s costs for Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Rex Tillerson’s personal use of company-owned aircraft increased sixfold in 2011, according to a U.S. regulatory filing.
Tillerson’s personal use of company planes cost $197,323 last year, compared with $29,409 in 2010, Irving, Texas-based Exxon said today in a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filing. The expense was included in executive compensation disclosures that showed Tillerson’s total compensation rose 17 percent to $34.9 million in 2011, including stock awards and deferred compensation.
The increase in costs associated with Tillerson’s personal use of company planes stemmed in part from escalating fuel prices and maintenance expenses, as well as more trips, Alan Jeffers, an Exxon spokesman, said today in a telephone interview.
“For security reasons, the board requires the chairman and CEO to use company aircraft for both personal and business travel,” Exxon said in the filing. The board “considers these costs to be necessary, security-related expenses rather than perquisites, but per the disclosure regulations we report the incremental cost of aircraft usage for personal travel.”
Exxon rose 16 percent in New York last year as civil conflicts in North Africa and the Middle East helped push Brent crude prices to a full-year average above $110 a barrel. Profit for 2011 jumped 35 percent to $41.1 billion.
To contact the reporter on this story: Joe Carroll in Chicago at jcarroll8@bloomberg.net |
Business expenses, written off the corporate sheet. That is, we helped pay for it. The rich think they are better than the rest of us. |
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mrgybe
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| mac wrote: | | Different people keep the schedules of Barack and Michele, and different people organize their travel. |
Hilarious. Even I don't believe that the White House staff, or the Obamas (or the Air Force) can be that incompetent. It is pure arrogance displayed by two people who routinely preach to us about climate change and frugality, but whose personal behavior runs counter to the urgent priorities they set for the rest of us. |
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nw30
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| Also known as the Al Gore effect. |
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boggsman1
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Also known as minutae ...when nothing else sticks...C'mon guys , let's get back to Hillary, and Bill. |
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mac
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In a continuing, and obsessive effort, to divert attention from the corruption demonstrated by a Republican governor interfering in a lawsuit to save Exxon from billions in clean-up costs, and from a Republican Representative violating ethics standards, mrgybe again returns to the most important issue of the time--trying to use false logic to undermine the science behind climate change.
Accepting for a moment his proposition that the President's use of Air Force one is arrogant, and he is asking us to make sacrifices for addressing climate change, I would ask so what. To begin with, it is a false comparison that we must make sacrifices. We must, and have, under Obama, invested in cleaner technologies. Something fought furiously by mrgybe and his cohorts because it will eventually cut into big carbon profits. If the Obama's use of air travel to promote causes is arrogant, one might ask if it is any different than that of any other politician, nabob of industry, or previous presidents. Obviously a question that the GOP operatives want to avoid.
Cheap diversions from corruption. Nothing more important in the world of news. Hilarious. |
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nw30
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| boggsman1 wrote: | | Also known as minutae ...when nothing else sticks...C'mon guys , let's get back to Hillary, and Bill. |
Well if you insist, but the glory of the 90's is over.
Many Democrats want independent Clinton email probe: Reuters/Ipsos poll
By Amanda Becker
WASHINGTON Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:34am EDT
Democrats who said they were not personally swayed one way or another by the email flap said that Clinton could fare worse because of it, if and when she launches her presidential campaign, a separate Reuters/Ipsos poll showed.
The polling showed that nearly half of Democratic respondents - 46 percent - agreed there should be an independent review of all of Clinton's emails to ensure she turned over everything that is work-related.
There was also sizable support among Democrats for the Republican-controlled congressional committee's effort to require Clinton to testify about the emails. Forty-one percent said they backed its efforts to force Clinton's testimony.
"Bottom line is if she didn’t do anything wrong, she’s fine," said North Carolina resident Renetia Lowery, 48, a Democrat and survey respondent.
The online poll of 2,128 adults from March 10 to March 17 showed that Americans, including two-thirds of Democrats, were aware of the controversy surrounding Clinton's decision to use her personal email rather than a government account, along with a personal server, when she was the top U.S. diplomat from 2009 to 2013.
Clinton has tried to tamp down accusations that she used her personal email account to keep her records from public review, which would support an old political narrative that Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, are secretive and seek to play by a different set of rules.
For the rest~
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/19/us-usa-clinton-poll-idUSKBN0MF0DV20150319
Why she really wants to be POTUS is totally beyond me, she could enjoy the rest of her life if she didn't. |
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isobars
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Ego and control. She believes the U.S. and its residents should be run her way, and wants to dictate our compliance. In that regard she's no different from Obama, who now wants to pass an edict that EVERYONE must vote or be punished. One of his two telepromptered excuses is an outright lie, the other absolutely defies all logic.
Another way they are alike is running their offices -- OUR GOVERNMENT BUSINESS -- in utmost secrecy. Her email $#!+stuurm just keeps hitting the fan, and Obama's White House is breaking secrecy records, with over 200,000 and counting legally obligating FOIA requests being denied even BEFORE his decree that his administration is immune to the FOIA.
Sounds like Oregon. It's considering passing a law ALLOWING school kids to use sunscreen when outdoors in school activities (that's presently illegal under their zero tolerance drug policy).
Wonder if they're allowed to pull off the road and eat a damned sammitch?
You people who vote for $#!+ like that astound me. You DESERVE that Warren faux squaw. |
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