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real-human
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | ‘Silent Donation’: Corporate Emails Reveal Google Executives’ Efforts to Turn Out Latino Voters Who They Thought Would Vote for Clinton
You gotta wonder why the corrupt billionaires wanted Clinton to win? Don't be stupid. Give us the real reason.... |
is that like Enron, defense contractors, oil companies, banks, insurance, chemical, medical, chemical, mining, timber, gas, on and on...
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MalibuGuru
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| Now, now. I'm just talking about the BILLIONAIRES not the millionaires. |
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mac
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techno900
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I guess searching for those that voted illegally in the last election is suppressing the vote - OF THOSE THAT VOTE ILLEGALLY. At least the state is trying to do something about the fraud.
| Quote: | Hundreds of Illegal Voters Uncovered in North Carolina in 2016
Investigation finds cases of felon and non-citizen voting, double voting, voter impersonation in 2016 election
BY: Joe Schoffstall
April 24, 2017 3:17 pm
Hundreds of illegal voters participated in the 2016 general election in North Carolina, according to a new report.
The post-election audit report, released by the North Carolina State Board of Elections (NCSBE), an independent and bipartisan agency that oversees elections in the state, found hundreds of illegal votes, including votes cast by felons and non-citizens, double voting, voter impersonation, and irregularities that affected mail-in absentee ballots.
The audit uncovered 441 cases where suspected active felons voted during the 2016 elections.
"In late January 2017, NCSBE sent letters to suspected felon voters identified through data audits, notifying recipients that they may have illegally voted and their registrations would be canceled in 30 days unless they objected in writing and presented evidence that they are not active felons," the report states.
"Currently, 441 files of suspected felon voters remain open after an initial screening and contacts or attempted contacts with the voters."
Investigators have referred 16 "substantiated cases" of felon voting to district attorneys to date. The remaining 425 cases are expected to be referred when the investigation is complete.
A separate investigation using state and federal databases identified non-citizens suspected of voting in the election. The NCSBE said 41 voters acknowledged they were not U.S. citizens after receiving a letter from the board of elections. The non-citizen voters came from 28 different countries.
An additional 61 voters did not respond to NCSBE's letter. Investigations into these cases are ongoing.
"A number of non-citizens said they were not aware that they were prohibited from voting," the report states. "Interviews and evidence show that some non-citizens were misinformed about the law by individuals conducting voter registration drives or, in at least one document case, by a local precinct official."
The state board of elections also is investigating 24 substantiated cases of double voting during the 2016 election.
"Some violators appear to be ‘testers' trying to find holes in the system," the audit says. "Others claim property ownership in multiple jurisdictions should allow them to vote in each, and others brush past the law to support their candidate by any means necessary. Additionally, a case that initially appears to be a double voter—an individual who votes twice—may actually be a case of voter impersonation—an individual who casts a ballot using the identity of another person."
The board said that detecting double voting and voter impersonation is a time-sensitive process. The initial review indicated there were possibly several dozen additional cases of double voting.
"While no audit exists to catch all possible cases of voter impersonation, double voter or deceased voter audits may detect such cases," the report says.
The NCSBE is continuing its investigation of voting irregularities in the 2016 elections and will refer the cases to prosecutors where necessary.
Logan Churchwell, spokesman for the Public Interest Legal Foundation, an Indiana-based group that litigates to protect election integrity, told the Washington Free Beacon the audit is a step in the right direction toward finding weaknesses in North Carolina's election system.
"This audit is a positive step in identifying weaknesses in the local election system. The State needs to be doing a better job tracking felon voters and freezing their records until sentences are complete," Churchwell said.
Churchwell added the state should implement requirements to prevent voter impersonation.
"NC would also do well to implement voter identification requirements into the absentee voting system—addressing the impersonation of dead voters and others," Churchwell said. "The continued trend of noncitizen voting can only be fixed with proof of citizenship built into voter registration applications. Simply inquiring about eligibility is not going to cut it any more." |
https://freebeacon.com/issues/hundreds-illegal-voters-uncovered-north-carolina-2016/ |
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mac
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| More votes were changed by Russian bots than felons voted in North Carolina. Techno's allegations didn't change a single vote result--but the efforts to suppress voting certainly did. You must be so proud. |
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swchandler
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techno900, please fill us in on the total number of voters in North Carolina.
In the big picture, you have to admit that the numbers questionably revealed in the Free Beacon article are arguably insignificant in the scheme of things. |
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mac
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| Techno’s source is far right with a mixed record of reporting the facts. In simpler terms, nonsense spun into paranoia. |
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real-human
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techno900
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mac said: | Quote: | | Techno’s source is far right with a mixed record of reporting the facts. In simpler terms, nonsense spun into paranoia. |
Yes, because the liberal media in NC suppress/doesn't report much news that contradicts the leftist movement. If it's nonsense, just find where the reported "facts" are incorrect.
Bash the source rather than actually debating the issue - classic Mac. There was voter fraud in NC and liberals like swchandler feel it should be ignored. That's why the right is concerned about liberalism.
From our local LIBERAL paper last year:
| Quote: | 508 ineligible voters cast ballots in 2016, according to NC elections agency report
By Colin Campbell
ccampbell@newsobserver.com
April 21, 2017 01:14 PM
RALEIGH
An investigation by the N.C. Board of Elections has found that 508 voters who cast ballots last November weren’t eligible to vote – and the vast majority of them were felons serving active sentences.
The State Board of Elections released the audit report Friday in response to public records requests and a request from members of Congress. The report says that 441 voters appear to have been serving active felony sentences on Election Day – many of them on probation. Convicted felons can vote in North Carolina only after completing their sentences, including any probation and parole.
In addition, the investigation found 41 non-citizens who cast ballots, 24 voters who voted twice and two people who falsely voted using the name of a family member who’d recently died.
“It is important to recognize that suspected cases of ineligible voters casting ballots and/or committing fraud represent a tiny fraction” of the 4.8 million voters who participated, the report says.
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Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article145971264.html#storylink=cpy |
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real-human
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| techno900 wrote: | mac said: | Quote: | | Techno’s source is far right with a mixed record of reporting the facts. In simpler terms, nonsense spun into paranoia. |
Yes, because the liberal media in NC suppress/doesn't report much news that contradicts the leftist movement. If it's nonsense, just find where the reported "facts" are incorrect.
Bash the source rather than actually debating the issue - classic Mac. There was voter fraud in NC and liberals like swchandler feel it should be ignored. That's why the right is concerned about liberalism.
From our local LIBERAL paper last year:
| Quote: | 508 ineligible voters cast ballots in 2016, according to NC elections agency report
By Colin Campbell
ccampbell@newsobserver.com
April 21, 2017 01:14 PM
RALEIGH
An investigation by the N.C. Board of Elections has found that 508 voters who cast ballots last November weren’t eligible to vote – and the vast majority of them were felons serving active sentences.
The State Board of Elections released the audit report Friday in response to public records requests and a request from members of Congress. The report says that 441 voters appear to have been serving active felony sentences on Election Day – many of them on probation. Convicted felons can vote in North Carolina only after completing their sentences, including any probation and parole.
In addition, the investigation found 41 non-citizens who cast ballots, 24 voters who voted twice and two people who falsely voted using the name of a family member who’d recently died.
“It is important to recognize that suspected cases of ineligible voters casting ballots and/or committing fraud represent a tiny fraction” of the 4.8 million voters who participated, the report says.
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Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article145971264.html#storylink=cpy |
It has to do with criticality, again the counting mechanism when there are no paper trails by the voter is the largest problem that can affect an election. This number could be in the millions per state. Not to mention the scrubbing of legitimate voters is in numbers of 600,000 in some states.
So where should we be adressing the problem, where it was shown only 1 ineligible voter would have been stopped with a picture ID? is the low-level thinking right-wing way.
again dems have no problem with a non-mandatory national ID with biometrics that is free and can be acquired at any post office and can be picked up at any post office or delivered to the home or under a bridge by the post office. And if a republican fundraiser farmer in Iowa hires someone that does not verify the national ID and his workers kill college students he goes to jail too. right wing fundraisers do not want a national id like this.
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