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keycocker



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am with Gybe on this. Anything has to be better than this. The GOP has successfully blackmailed the people with the worst US Gov. in modern times.
Anything to end the war against Obama. The collateral damage to the American people has been massive.
The Teas struck the greatest single blow to small business with the shutdown.
They are planning more.
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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boggs is partly right; NAFTA accelerated what the high price of American labor started. Tax policies further accelerated it. Reps were behind most of those. New effect was greater offshoring of labor--without penalties.

KC--there is another problem, which we can't blame on either the current or previous presidents. American has perhaps over-relied on a consumer economy, which was bubbled up by the fake housing and soft ware bubbles. That prevented the economy/consumers from making gradual adjustments to consume less. The housing bubble hid that fundamental weakness in the economy. Cheap interest, while it has helped the upper income groups, and stabilized both housing and the stock market, has also hidden the weakness.

Unfair to blame this on anybody but Phil Gramm.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC, you sure give the GOP a lot of strength and responsibility that I don't think they have or deserve.
So it must be your opinion that Obama is nothing more than an innocent victim. Really?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama the all powerful Oz says he has a pen and a phone. Wasn't he supposed to solve the immigration mess with his pen? He will undoubtedly do this after the election. He refuses to protect our borders despite the bs that deportations are so much higher. Deportations may have increased but illegal entry has also increased.

Small business formation is dismal. Most new jobs are part time. The only solution the D's have is to raise the minimum wage. Sorry, but robots are coming to a town near you....Made in China.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Obama the all powerful Oz says he has a pen and a phone. Wasn't he supposed to solve the immigration mess with his pen? He will undoubtedly do this after the election. He refuses to protect our borders despite the bs that deportations are so much higher. Deportations may have increased but illegal entry has also increased.

Small business formation is dismal. Most new jobs are part time. The only solution the D's have is to raise the minimum wage. Sorry, but robots are coming to a town near you....Made in China.


http://smallbiztrends.com/2014/08/small-business-weaker-job-creator.html

Small business still creates more jobs every year than big business, but the difference is shrinking, data from the Census Bureau’s Business Dynamics Statistics reveal.
As the figure above shows, companies with fewer than 500 employees generated 55.5 percent of all new jobs created in 2011, the latest year for which data are available. That’s a significant drop from 1987 when small businesses were responsible for 67.2 percent of new job creation.
The decline in small business job creation has occurred primarily in the smallest businesses. From 1987 to 2011, the share of job creation by small businesses with between 1 and 249 employees declined; while the share of job creation at companies with between 250 and 499 workers rose.
But even the rise in the share of job creation at larger small businesses has been relatively modest when compared with the increase in job generation at the biggest companies. While businesses with 10,000 or more workers accounted for 16.7 percent of the jobs generated in 1987, they were responsible for 23.9 percent of the positions created in 2011.
Small business remains an important source of employment, accounting for slightly less than half of all private sector employment. However, the fraction of private sector workers employed in small companies has declined over time. As I have written about here before, small business’s share of private sector employment shrunk from a high of 54.8 percent in 1987 to a low of 48.9 percent in 2011.
Economists are not sure why small businesses are accounting for a smaller fraction of job creation and private sector employment than they used to. Some analysts point to the effects of rising health care costs and regulation, which tend to hit smaller companies more heavily than big businesses. Others focus on changing industry composition, pointing out that the real estate and construction sectors, where small businesses are more prevalent, have shrunk dramatically over the past two decades.
Still others concentrate their attention on the decline in bank lending to small companies, which historically have relied on bank credit as a source of capital. And some economists point out that the decline in small business’s share of job creation is really the result of increased job generation at big companies.
Whatever the explanation, the facts remain: Small business’s shares of both job creation and employment have both been trending downward for the past two-and-a-half decades.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW,
I said nothing about Obama.
The victim of bad government is you and me.
It does not require strength for the GOP to fail to do any work and vote no on auto pilot.
I think any Pres. GOP or Dem. has limited power.
He cannot write laws, raise or lower taxes, halt the gov or spend money.
The Congress can.
They want you to always blame the pres for these things.
Most Americans buy it.
Really.
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nw30



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keycocker wrote:
NW,
I said nothing about Obama.
The victim of bad government is you and me.
It does not require strength for the GOP to fail to do any work and vote no on auto pilot.
I think any Pres. GOP or Dem. has limited power.
He cannot write laws, raise or lower taxes, halt the gov or spend money.
The Congress can.
They want you to always blame the pres for these things.
Most Americans buy it.
Really.

You didn't have to mention BHO because you implied it.
The president has the bully pulpit, a good leader with the bully pulpit and conviction can bring along congress, and the people, to his way of thinking, he has true leadership skills, unfortunately BHO is a terrible leader w/o conviction, but a great blamer. When you blame everyone but yourself, you aren't going to be taken seriously, and will be neutered in the process.
You can try to lay the blame entirely on congress and the GOP, but I'm sure that history will prove you wrong.
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mac



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can tell someone that listens to Savage. They post made up facts like this:

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Deportations may have increased but illegal entry has also increased.

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I'll quote your Virginia buddy. Prove it. Or withdraw it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless of who Clinton chooses, I think that we have seen on this forum the political strategy of the Republicans. They will try and make the election about Obama, and not about Clinton. That will fail. Clinton will make the election about the great days of the Clinton Presidency and Bill will be a great spokesman.

The next President has the potential for serving in a great economic time for the US. With our competitive energy costs, the US economy will outpace the world and, ironically, a Democrat will be at the helm.

So, my choice would be Castro, if I were a Democrat operative. A Hispanic who served in that Administration will be formidable should Hillary retire at one term.

Just saying...still don't know how I will vote.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Obama the all powerful Oz says he has a pen and a phone. Wasn't he supposed to solve the immigration mess with his pen? He will undoubtedly do this after the election. He refuses to protect our borders despite the bs that deportations are so much higher. Deportations may have increased but illegal entry has also increased.

Small business formation is dismal. Most new jobs are part time. The only solution the D's have is to raise the minimum wage. Sorry, but robots are coming to a town near you....Made in China.


Why would you make such statements without backing them up....

Back up your trash that you channel from above. You need to ask yourself what is the purpose of posting such things without knowing the facts?. Post links to prove your stupid statements that you believe are facts.. this has happened too many times with you so time to post some links to back up your trash. And is typical for right wingers. Ignorance aimed at hate/racism is the vogue to the right wing.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/

The facts:
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In fiscal year 2011, there were 18,506 U.S. Border Patrol agents in the Southwest Border Sectors -- up steadily from 3,555 agents in 1992, according to Customs and Border Protection figures.
A Pew Research Hispanic Center study finds that Border Patrol apprehensions of all unauthorized immigrants are at their lowest level since 1971. "In spite of (and perhaps because of) increases in the number of U.S. Border Patrol agents, apprehensions of Mexicans trying to cross the border illegally have plummeted in recent years—from more than 1 million in 2005 to 286,000 in 2011—a likely indication that fewer unauthorized migrants are trying to cross," it concluded.

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