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gerritt



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:17 pm    Post subject: Why I Prefer Windsurfing Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z7suKfDzSQI
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor choice of riders.
Jason is one of the best windsurfing has to offer.
Ben is not going off, instead preferring to go straight off adolph, a term for riding a wave in a straight line with no turning.
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MrFish



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Find.

Yeah, in those conditions obviously it would seem pretty hard or impossible for a kiter to do the kinds of cutbacks and bottom turns that we can. They have their days, just not the big ones.

Edit > And with the lines going through the waves, it's pretty hard to imagine a kiter doing much with that.
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kitelines would be in front of the surfer and out in front of the curling waves, so there would be no hindrance whatsoever.
Kitesurfer CHOSE to go straight, not turn.
Good wave riding kitesurfers use boards very similar to tow in boards, under 6' in length, narrow at around 16" in width, straps, and made for control in waves as big as Jaws can offer.
THIS kitesurfer chose not to turn, that's all, so the vid was provided by a anti kiteboarder.
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beallmd



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, is there a antikiter conspiracy out there?
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spennie



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, and I'm certainly not creating a line-cutting drone in my basement!

Just kidding of course, never had a problem with kiters.

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LUCARO



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben Wilson is one of the top wave riding kiters on the planet. My guess his going straight is more dictated by wind direction and possibly the speed of the breaking wave.
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some other reason for going straight off, at the bottom, DTL.
Kiters at CapeVerde go just fine DTL, almost as good as windsurfers.
Why is Ben riding backside, when kiteboarding is unidirectional? He should just switch stance, since every kiteboarder as used a twin tip at least 100 days in his lifetime, to get any good.
It's possible winds were too light, but he's shown planing outbound, so wind must be over 15 mph, where he can dive the kite as he turns more DTL to prevent Hindenburgs.
No, some other factor is involved, as this vid favors windsurfers, and kiters must be up in arms over this vid.
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sailtildark



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wind is likely too light to let the kite drift - he is trying to keep tension in the lines. When the wind is light (i.e. less than 20 mph) you surf faster into the kite can drift backwards in the air and the kite will eventually fall out of the sky. This happened to me on an overhead wave yesterday at Dillon and had to swim in as the kite got washed and wouldn't relaunch (don't make comments - I've got much worse stories from windsurfing there!!). I could only imagine the consequences if this happened at macking Cloudbreak.
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we assume Ben is a good enough kiter to know how to pump his kite, creating more tension on the lines, so the kite doesn't Hindenberg when the lines lose tension from him running downwind?
Just like all the kiters who wave sail anywhere in the world, or the kiter's who carve planing downwind jibes like a windsurfer.
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