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uwindsurf



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
At some point in time you have to believe in the ideal of peace through strength, that is the only thing that will ever be respected.


Wasn't that Saddam's philosophy?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should I really spend any time on this? WTF.

He never achieved peace, he achieved fear.
Any further explanation, would require patience that I don't have.
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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB--potholes scare me on my bike at 30 miles an hour.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac

I went off the road at about 30 mph last summer! No pot holes...just a Lexus passing head on! Managed somehow to bail without injury.

We all do what we can for the war effort! My Grandmother ran the farm while Grandfather went to work in an airplane plant during WW2. I can dodge a few potholes!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nitwit30 wrote:

He never achieved peace, he achieved fear.

Why are you talking about Bush (and Cheney)?

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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coboardhead wrote:
All we have to do to pay for it is put up with a few potholes in our roads.

So mac is willing to pay for buying pot with food stamps/EBT cards, but not for national security?
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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Potholes are not pot sales--except perhaps in Washington state. ADHD? Let me be clear. We may have to engage militarily in the Middle East. I am, at this stage, neither opposed or in support. What I do support is the process that Bush I engage in, and both Obama and Bush II seem loathe to follow. Have an open debate in Congress rather than the Executive branch again asserting the Imperial Presidency. Bush I was joined by quite a few Democrats in Congress authorizing action--after a very rigorous debate.

I will not buy the talking point arguments of the right at this point; many of them have either asserted military options to the exclusion of other options, or have rapidly changed their position to remain in opposition to whatever Obama suggests. That does not mean that I support Obama no matter what--it means that I am trying to keep an open mind about a very difficult question.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW30, I'm wondering why you're ignoring my question. Maybe I was getting a bit too close to the truth.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
NW30, I'm wondering why you're ignoring my question. Maybe I was getting a bit too close to the truth.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!
What truth? I'd love to hear that one, please enlighten me, oh wise one.
I will say this, and say it proudly, I've never been a democrat.
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