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real-human
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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frederick23 wrote: | His lawyers cleared him. Let's hope it holds. He is the only sane one in the bunch. Seems like a "reasonably" normal guy. Loose 190 lbs, and he may even try a GO board. |
Yes amazing how the firm that represents him gets a one million dollar contract to do a so called investigation of the event. And they clear him without even questioning or getting the answers from the people who were involved. They did not even depose Christie and ask the tough questions under oath. what a sham. Again he is so incompetent he wasted one million more of taxpayers money. If he was deposed by some of the state elected officials that wanted answers it would have worth the million he gave to his friends in that law firm that also does things for him.
This is such a classic conflict of interest that that law firm needs to be sued by the citizens for gross incompetence and all lose their license to practice law for accepting a clear conflict of interest payments of taxpayers money. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Does the name John Corzine ring a bell?
Christy will not be the nominee. Not a chance in hell. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Despite being "declared innocent", so to speak, because he was accused he's too guilty to run? What country are we in ... France? |
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MalibuGuru
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | Despite being "declared innocent", so to speak, because he was accused he's too guilty to run? What country are we in ... France? |
I did not say that. Even if he where lily white clean, he will not appeal to the conservative wing of the party. |
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J64TWB
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly. He appeals to the middle not the far. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Just in case anyone had forgotten, Bard reminds us:
Quote: | he will not appeal to the conservative wing of the party |
that the lunatics are running the asylum. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I figure I'd throw in a little balance, it's good to see the dems doing this as opposed to circling the wagons around the suspect, as they have been known to do, not only here is Cali. but in DC as well.
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In unprecedented move, state Senate votes to suspend three lawmakers
The paid suspensions of Sens. Leland Yee, Ronald S. Calderon and Roderick Wright all but guarantee Democrats will not regain their supermajority in the Senate this session.
By Patrick McGreevy
March 28, 2014, 4:28 p.m.
SACRAMENTO — Reeling from embarrassing bribery, corruption and voter fraud scandals, the state Senate took the unprecedented action Friday of voting to suspend three Democratic lawmakers from office pending the resolution of criminal charges against them.
The paid suspensions of Sens. Leland Yee, Ronald S. Calderon and Roderick Wright all but guarantee Democrats will not regain their supermajority in the Senate this session. And the controversies are expected to become anti-incumbent campaign fodder in other districts in this year's elections.
The bipartisan 28-1 vote came two days after Yee was arrested in his hometown of San Francisco and charged by federal authorities with conspiracy to traffic in firearms without a license and accepting campaign funds in exchange for political favors.
Calderon, of Montebello, was indicted last month and charged with accepting nearly $100,000 in bribes for official favors, and Wright has been convicted of lying about living in Inglewood in his Senate district. They had both previously been allowed to take voluntary leaves of absence to fight their separate criminal cases.
"I think this is a black mark on the institution," said Senate Republican leader Bob Huff about the spate of scandals. "The Senate took needed and decisive action today to help restore the public's trust in this great institution."
The Senate has never before suspended one of its members, according to Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento), who called Yee's alleged actions "sordid."
In previous weeks, Steinberg had blocked Republican attempts to oust Calderon and Wright, but on Friday he said the allegations against Yee "changed my point of view." He said having three such cases required firmer and equal action.
"An affirmative suspension puts this house on formal record that we unequivocally distance ourselves and the Senate from the unfathomable allegations contained in the Yee indictment as well as the other cases," Steinberg said.
Steinberg has seen Wright's case as different because he says residency laws are ambiguous.
But he saw more serious crimes alleged in Calderon's bribery indictment and the case alleging that Yee accepted payments to help arrange an illegal arms deal and influence marijuana laws. As a result, Steinberg had called on Yee and Calderon to resign, but they refused. Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday called on all three
lawmakers to resign.
Steinberg could have called a vote to expel the members permanently, but he decided not to do that.
"The satisfying thing would be to expel them immediately," Steinberg told his colleagues. "But I reluctantly conclude that what would be satisfying and popular would also run afoul of the most basic American principle of due process and the idea that people are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty."
Sen. Joel Anderson (R-San Diego) cast the only vote against the suspensions, saying he thinks the three senators should be expelled.
"I don't believe they deserve a paid vacation," Anderson said.
The state Constitution does not allow the Senate to withhold pay from a suspended lawmaker, so the trio will continue to draw their $95,291 annual salaries.
Steinberg said he will introduce a constitutional amendment, to be put before the voters, that would allow the Senate to withhold pay when it suspends lawmakers.
The Senate leader also said he would cancel a future floor session and hire trainers to spend the day meeting one-on-one with each senator and each of their staffers to review the ethics rules. He said there would be confidential conversations with each member and aide about whether they have concerns about specific actions taking place at the Capitol.
"I call on our entire body to take a deeper look at our culture," Steinberg told his colleagues in an impassioned speech in which he defended the Senate.
Calderon declined to comment on his suspension through a spokesman, and representatives of Yee and Wright did not return calls seeking responses.
Yee has been released on $500,000 bond but was not present for the Senate vote.
A 137-page FBI affidavit alleges that Yee offered to help an undercover agent buy automatic weapons and to assist another undercover agent, who posed as a medical marijuana businessman, to meet influential legislators who could affect regulation of marijuana.
Sen. Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) said the affidavit reads like a "bad Hollywood script," adding: "All of us collectively are shocked, we are dismayed by the allegations." But he said having criminal cases at the same time against three senators is an "anomaly."
Sen. Steve Knight (R-Paldmale) said that the allegations are "embarrassing" to the Senate, and that Wright should be expelled because a jury has found him guilty of eight felonies. "It's never too late to do the right thing," he said.
Yee and Calderon are prevented by term limits from running for reelection when their terms expire at the end of this year. Wright's term ends in 2016.
If a judge overturns the jury verdict at a May 16 hearing, Wright could return to office. If the verdict is upheld and he resigns, a special election would be called by the governor, with mid-August being the earliest the seat could be filled, right before the end of the legislative session.
The political fallout from the scandals could prevent Democrats in this year's elections from regaining their two-thirds majority, which allows them to raise taxes and veto bills without Republican support. They lost it when Calderon took a leave on March 2, and are now down two votes with Yee also on suspension.
Mark Baldassare, president of the Public Policy Institute of California, said he'll be watching to see if the trio of scandals "becomes an issue in those competitive seats around the state, as Democrats seek to get back their two-thirds majority in the Senate and Republicans look for ways to be competitive."
With the controversies capturing the public's attention, "it puts the stress on the incumbents to demonstrate to voters that they are doing the people's business with the highest level of ethics and integrity that people expect," he said.
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-yee-capitol-20140329,0,2287785.story#ixzz2xP5QrrHp |
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isobars
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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stevenbard wrote: | isobars wrote: | Despite being "declared innocent", so to speak, because he was accused he's too guilty to run? What country are we in ... France? |
I did not say that. Even if he where lily white clean, he will not appeal to the conservative wing of the party. |
That's better. But I'd vote for him if the election were tomorrow. |
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14881 Location: on earth
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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a dem set up on a sting to sell automatic weapons... now that one is a million to one odds one. Hope he gets the book and rots in jail.
Whereas When right winger breaks the laws and sells guns for drugs supporting terrorists he is a hero to the right wing and right wings pat them on the back and make them a spokes model and rich. Olie...
Same with Christie give a million $$$$ to his friends and they do not even put him under oath to get the truth by allowing someone that represents the state that would ask the hard questions. What a major theft of the taxpayers money. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Mac and Baja, you guys are lost to the communist dogma you've mired in your whole lives. And Iso, you've bought into the Fox news middle of the road pablum.
We've had 20 or more years of both parties destroying America. Why do we need a "party" candidate? Money, money, money.....more for the left than the right for sure. Why?
When the progressives in both parties finally destroy America, either the fascists or left loonies will be in control. We will deserve our fate. Just remember when either side tries to defend their party. It's both parties who are wrong with America, and why so many are looking toward Ron and Rand Paul for inspiration.
Our economic downfall started with Bush 1, and has accelerated into infinity with Obama. Just look at per capita GDP for guidance. Luckily Carter didn't get a 2nd chance |
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