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What has the Tea Party done for us lately?
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got to have a job, and a well paying job before you worry about worker safety. That doesn't mean you want children working or hurting. That means you want good jobs that lead to worker safety. Good jobs used to be an American right. They no longer exist for the masses.

Education and work ethic are missing today. Personal responsibility is missing because jobs are not plentiful. It is the governments responsibility to protect us, and level the playing field. You cannot do this with taxes. You must make it easier for the middle class to compete in the small business arena. This president is killing the upwardly mobile job generating middle class by over regulating. The Tea Party wants to enable the working class to move into the merchant class.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Education and work ethic are missing today. Personal responsibility is missing because jobs are not plentiful. It is the governments responsibility to protect us, and level the playing field. You cannot do this with taxes. You must make it easier for the middle class to compete in the small business arena. This president is killing the upwardly mobile job generating middle class by over regulating. The Tea Party wants to enable the working class to move into the merchant class."


Everything is in the details. Maybe you can reveal them. If you can't, you're just blowing smoke.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard,
That is a very admirable idea for the Teas to support on paper.
Could you tell us when they did this in real life?
That is the issue here.
Perhaps you might include a few words explaining how the shutdown achieved this.
For many small business the shutdown was a sucker punch to the balls.
The Teas are planning to do it again.


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keycocker



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR,
In the recent past there was a conservative, middle ,and liberal wing of each party in the US. The fake media has driven many thinking conservatives out of the GOP as it goes more to extremists. The GOP is mostly just strong among voters in welfare states.
If you lived here you might find yourself comfortable among more educated conservatives in the Dem party than with Iso and his crew.
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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard said:

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Education and work ethic are missing today


I don't really think that is true. Education is much more rigorous now than it was when you and I were kids. The new Core Curriculum teaches math concepts in fourth grade that were part of my 7th and 8th grade learning. Kids learn to read one and a half to two years earlier. I have about 6 kids in first grade reading at third or fourth grade level. Highest achievers I've seen in 8 years of volunteering teaching reading. The work ethic among techs and start-ups, and athletes in Division I programs, is much higher than it was when I was young and a college athlete. The down side is the lack of balance in some of these youngsters, both in breadth of education and in life skills.

With that said, you are partially right that this society has become, in a very large sense, an entertainment society. The pay off in athletics and show business is so high, and there are so many choices, that many people look at entertaining as the promised land--not invention or manufacturing.

There is another problem that you miss entirely, and that is that there is not equal access to opportunity. I see smart kids who are hot messes emotionally, and that prevents them from absorbing much of the education that is available. Poverty, violence, and substance abuse are behind this. People who don't, in your terms have a work ethic, usually believe that it won't matter. Or they are damaged, sometimes beyond repair.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just gained an insight into the left's puzzling paranoia of the TEA party, Christmas, Easter, evergreen trees, the colors red and green, value systems, a conscience, reindeer, bearded fat men, cookies, and anything else remotely related to or rooted in faith in a higher power instead of IF IT FEELS GOOD, DO IT.

A media analyst on Fox interviewed Far Left Foxbabe Kirsten Powers about her recent coming out. She had kept her secret from the public for many years, because, as she said, she didn't know even ONE friend or relative (her words) with her extremely rare and apparently shameful affliction (my words based on her implications). But after seven years of secrecy to avoid conflict, a friend's pressure to write about it pushed her over the bold edge to admit that ... shhhhhh ... she had accepted God and become religious.

She knew no one who goes to church. She was stunned when a man she met spoke of God and Jesus as though they were valid, acceptable, openly discusssable concepts; she said she had never heard anyone do that before. Her explanation included living in Manhattan and having parents who taught at a university ... as though that was a valid excuse rather than a condemnation of both NYC and our school system as godless, mostly athiest, and thus by implication often valueless.
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nw30



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they even say the Pledge of Allegiance in elementary school anymore?
You know, the one with "under god" in it?

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windoggie



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
the one with "under god" in it?
... that didn't exist in the original?
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windoggie



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok....
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Doggie.

So the conclusion is that no person here can think of anything but damage the Tea leaders have done to our country?
But you guys support them anyway.
Sad.
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